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Get the tee-shirt: "RESPOND TO THIS"
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Requisition Request:
Item: 4K resolution monitor (36 inch minimum)
Purpose: required to perform natural logarithmic synergy functions outside of Excel without standing up a web service for modeling of customer retention algorithms.
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englebart wrote: Item: 4K resolution monitor (36 inch minimum)
Seems reasonable. 
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I wonder what kind of genius designed this UI. I need to maximize to see all the buttons, otherwise asin, acos, atan are not visible too. This is baffling. Who would have known? Do we need to read documentation in order to use calculator now?
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raddevus wrote: I need to calculate a natural logarithm immediately if not sooner.
Try Google: ln(1) - Google Search[^]
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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That's very cool. I forgot about how helpful Google is in this case. Thx.
Out of curiosity, do you have the ln button in your win8 win10 calc?
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I'm no fan of google's, but that I like!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Click the Up-arrow just below the square root sign, to the left of CE.
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Someone else mentioned that too.
I never would've guessed that up arrow meant that.
I think Microsoft has instituted a new UI Design goal...Punish the user
It's actually punishment for using their app. Microsoft has begun to punish users for using their stuff. It makes sense now.
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IIRC there is a section (can't recall which) in Charles Petzold's book "Programming Windows", where he writes "No one said it would be easy".
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You had me at...
Richard MacCutchan wrote: Charles Petzold's book
Great writer.
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But Petzold was talking about programming! not using!
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Yes, but you don't know what Microsoft was talking about. 
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Click the UP arrow on the calculator display. It will change log10 to ln, 10^x to e^x, etc.
EDIT: Arggh! beaten by Richard!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Thanks very much. This is terrible UI design. Maybe some enjoy this type of thing. Ugh!
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Also, has anyone noticed that you CANNOT resize the calc window from the top?
That's a cool new behavior of the new Windows UI too, isn't it?
More user punishment.
Here's the insider view of the MS devs at work.
Dev 1: Can you imagine when the user (giggle, snort) attempts to resize from the top of the window and he cannot get a resize arrow (giggle, giggle)?
Dev 2: That is so funny. Hahaha, s/he'll be chasing the top edge around like a lunatic.
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raddevus wrote: More user punishment.
If only Microsoft would make it possible to write apps that are better than theirs. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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They paid Google to do that.
See Anrdoid Studio. 
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raddevus wrote: Also, has anyone noticed that you CANNOT resize the calc window from the top?
That's adobe behaviour, so it's clear that ms is learning from the best.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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The best thing about is: You can't calculate anything with decimals if you're in programmer mode... You have to switch to another mode for that.
I prefer one mode for all purposes instead of being forced to switch to different modes. Whoever thought this was a grand idea needs to be slapped as well.
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That problem has existed in all versions of Calculator as far back as I can remember.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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It was a possible with the Windows XP calculator at least. I don't remember if it got removed with Windows Vista/7 or later. I thought it was still possible with Windows 7 though, but I might be wrong here.
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Nope. I'm on 7 and just tried. No decimals in Programmer mode, which is kind of WTF 
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Nicholas Marty wrote: I prefer one mode for all purposes
Agree 100%.
But that would be too good.
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Like F87AB.A7 or 01100111001.11?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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