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Mark_Wallace wrote: we had to type addresses and program names in little black boxes
I still do that today, using the edit box in the start menu instead of the dos command line.
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That's mentioned further down.
But, as you say, it's always been available as an option, which you're not alone in using (winkey + R always got plenty of use in my machines, especially for less-used programs, like regedit).
But with the baby-blocks interface, it became the only viable option, without installing third-party Start-menu tools. Fortunately, they backed off of the baby-blocks-only interface pretty quickly.
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Missed that one.
All in all, your thread is pretty accurate.
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Not quite the only option - I pinned all my "frequently used" apps to the task bar, and forgot about the Start button, except to shut down.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Hell, if I pinned all my frequently-used apps, I wouldn't have any room left on the taskbar for open programs/windows -- so I put the Quick Start toolbar back, which does exactly the same thing, but takes up much less space (my taskbar has been two buttons deep since windows '95).
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I've created hotkeys for my "frequently used" with AutoHotkey. The "not that frequently" used ones got a place on the task bar. And the rest gets started with "Win+R".
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The reason I pin the "frequent" ones, is that they get "Pinned lists" - which means that VS has 5 pinned projects, Libreoffice Calc has four, and so on. Plus, they are always in the same order on the task bar while they are running, so it's easy to switch to them (quicker than the ALT TAB list in many cases).
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Yes, I was tempted by the pinned-list feature, until I discovered that it was part of internet explorer, rather than the desktop.
I couldn't figure out why that was, so I gave it a miss.
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So to go forward with the current state of the evolution, you've had to go back to the old ways (mind you, my first reaction to baby-blocks was to install a shortcut-key app, so it's not only great minds that think alike).
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Same here: put really often used stuff on the taskbar, put shortcuts to the other regularly used stuff in a number of folders ( customised, organised and sorted as wanted ) and use them as "toolbars" on the same taskbar.
End result: has been working really well since windows 98, one method works the same way for all versions since. Regardless of any UI changes they dream up.
As long as they stick to having a taskbar/toolbar its OK  . I would be really unhappy though if they did not  .
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I've been using a little gadget called KO Approach[^] for years, now.
It shows the content of folders as a menu, if you long-click, so I have folders down the side of my desktop for Network, Media, Graphics, Work, etc, populated with shortcuts and symlinks to stuff I need.
The only things certain about computer UIs are that one size does not fit all, and that baby-blocks are only fit for babies.
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I agree with your rant, but I miss hte "evoultion" part :groan:
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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The evolution was pretty linear:
Keyboard shortcuts --> shortcut bars --> menus --> menus + graphical buttons --> utter cr@p.
It's like the history of the Roman Empire: It got better and better and better until it was elephanted*.
* D'you see what I did, there?
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They improved it to death, I get it!
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Usually any "history of the GUI" includes how Steve Jobs stole his ideas from Xerox, but I see they've been omitted from yours. Anyway, I'll let you get on with your Microsoft bashing
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They're the company that "had nothing to do with microsoft, apple, google, ibm, or any of the other big names in computing".
I didn't think naming them was necessary, in these halls, especially because it would have meant having to name all the other innovators (which would have taken me whole minutes to look up).
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My first UI was in hardware: Hex keyboard and 7 segment LED displays. It still works as well as it ever did, probably because Mickeysoft never had anything to do with those old computers or any software that runs on them.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: 7 segment LED displays
You could always paint pastel-coloured rectangles around them!
Incidentally: WANT!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Incidentally: WANT!
Traditionally, there is only one way. Build one yourself.
The modernized version: COSMAC Elf 2000[^]
The original: [^]
Either way, I would replace the switches with a hex keyboard for practical reasons. Still, it's very much the Raspberry Pi of 1976
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: The original: [^]
Oh, that is a thing of beauty!
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Take a closer look at that PDF. All CMOS (before CMOS became the only way to go), the part about battery buffering your RAM, and the CDP1861 graphics chip in part IV.
By the way, mine is an Elf II like the one on page 2 of part IV.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Ha! Even the name "COSMOS RAM IC" is enough to get my mouth watering! I wanna play!
I recall (at least I think I do -- acronyms and numbers have been known to get mixed up in my head) that the CDP 1861 was quite a respected (and imitated) bit of hardware.
But this[^] is what you get id you search for "Elf II kit" on ebay
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COSMOS used to be the name RCA used for what is now known as CMOS. With the transistor densities on the chips back then, many still were sceptical about CMOS. The 'C' stands for complementary, meaning that the transistors always switch in pairs, effectively cutting the number of available transistors in half. On the other side, complementary transistors cut down the power usage to a tiny fraction. Those old computers, if you consequently used CMOS components and avoided relatively power hungry components like LEDs, could run on batteries for months.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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If it is bothering you so much.....
- Do not annoy us with that
- Get a life
- Do not annoy us with that
- Create apps for apple or something like that without ribbons
- Do not annoy us with that
- learn to understand what you work with
- Do not annoy us with that
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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