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Quite some years ago, when Linux first seemed to be breaking out into the mainstream, there was a TV interview and the interviewer asked which O/S the consumers will choose.
He gave a very decent answer: to the consumer, it really doesn't matter. If they can go to their screen, click their icons, and it opens their applications then what's the difference to them? That's really the nutshell answer.
There's both Linux and Mac's O/S. Which do you think has the most visibility in the consumer consciousness (ironically, Mac's pretty much are Linux). Going the other way, however, we do have consumer acceptance of other O/S's (e.g., Android) rather quickly.
If you PC's basically a toy (vs. a tool), then Android and Mac would seem to have the edge with the typical consumer. If you're a developer - well, which one lets you emulate the other two (should you have the notion?)?
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"Continued Outbreak of Discontent"
Didn't your mother tell you that scratching it just makes it worse ?
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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But everyone knows the satisfaction of scratching an itch is worth it.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: the satisfaction of scratching an itch is worth it.
You have a point there; every time I tell the truth I break-out in the most itchy denial, but it's so satisfying to keep scratching it, even if I end up virtually covered in outrageous lies.
cheers, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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I'll probably do the same.
I have updated to 10 short before end of free promotion, tested it for 2 weeks and jumped back to Win7.
When Win7 ends... I will give a 2nd chance to Win10, if still same politics, I will try Linux.
But I fear that if my wife doesn't get used to Linux...
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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Nelek wrote: But I fear that if my wife doesn't get used to Linux...
If you set up her system, what is there to get used to?
Icons: click and application opens.
There will be new software in some cases (and new icons) - depending upon what you use now.
Libre should get her through most of her day. Gimp 2 for her photos. It's all out there. Give her Ubuntu and it has easy updating and location/installation of applications (for you, and eventually for her).
But mainly - point-and-click is still point-and-click.
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Have you got any customer with "technical" arguments like "I don't like that tone of blue in my icon" or similars?
Then you will know what I fear 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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"Should array indices start at 0 or 1? My compromise of 0.5 was rejected without, I thought, proper consideration." - Stan Kelly-Bootle[^]
From our time registration software 
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Start an array at index 0.5?
Been there . . . done that . . .
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Only in Javascript, where 0.5 can resolve as either 0 or 1, so programmers duplicate the first two entries of an array just to be safe.
Marc
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0.5 could probably resolve to NaN in JavaScript
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Promoting gender equality and encouraging all people to study programming requires re-tuning the semantics of PRISS (patriarchy reinforcing inequality syntax and syntax).
Here is the proposed nomenclature standard for default first item value for all programming languages currently under consideration by the ISO-66610842 working group:
-1000 : for WASP hetero males
-50 : for WASP hetero females
-1 : for trans-sexual m-to-f, or f-to-m, who regret the surgery
0 : for trans-sexual m-to-f, or f-to-m, who have had surgery, or, having had surgery, are happy with the result
1 : for trans-sexual f-to-m or m-to-f who have not had gender reassignment surgery
2 : for hermaphrodite persons, bi-sexuals, and schizophrenics.
3 : for celibate religious, clergy, or other ascetics
The committee recognizes, of course, that these adjustments are necessary to correct the heinous heritage of the way that computer languages subliminally promoted the most repressive capitalist-puritan, racist, sexist, ageist, colonialist, economic, social, and political institutions.
The two members of the committee who pointed out that the current proposal has no specific index for a large part of the population of the world have been unanimously voted out. The two schizophrenic members of the committee have had their motion that they receive two votes each rejected.
The proposal by Sandor Rossel, and W. Balboos, floated by one of their secret shell-companies, aka "Bootle," behind which they conceal their dark-web efforts to maintain the status quo, to allow use of floating point indexes is under serious consideration, but opinion is sharply divided, with one faction strongly promoting the idea as being inclusive, egalitarian, and, an equally vehement faction opposing the idea who state they believe it is a "cop-out, a form of moral cowardice, denial, etc."
Both sides have agreed to suspend meetings until the metal detector is installed.
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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BillWoodruff wrote: The proposal by W. Balboos to allow use of floating point indexes
Your entire proposal has been rejected as the result of a bureaucratic error. It wasn't actually W. Balboos who proposed floating point indices, but Stan Kelly-Bootle 
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Okay, Sandor, I've fixed that up for you, now.
cheers, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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Meh, if someone runs their shop as a parliamentary democracy, it's their own fault. I was not aware there is even a discussion about that. Any serious programmer will use 0.
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I'm very serious about programming, but sometimes I just don't have a choice (some third party libraries working with Excel in code use 1, so does Excel I think).
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I do believe he was just being silly. Besides, we all know any serious programmer uses the weight differentials of microbial dust partials found on the motherboard. You and your zeros. I laugh at them.
Jeremy Falcon
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I think a bootcamp is a paramilitary democracy.
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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Well, the most successful large software project in history is the Linux operating system. It is probably not paramilitary, but try to make Linus Torvalds to compromise on stuff like that.
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Hi Kamen, Depends on what you mean by "large," and "successful." There are all kinds of ways you could define that: [^] ... if you were talking about mainframe servers and supercomputers, yes, Linux dominates, but, step out of that niche (an important niche, a critical niche), and you are in a different universe.
Of course, I believe that Linux is one of the most complex, largest, open-source projects, ever.
cheers, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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Yeah well, android is actually Linux, just to be fair.
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Victorian police warn of harmful letterbox USB drives | ZDNet[^]
Yes but who's so naive to do that? It's like opening an attachment from an unknown sender! Oh, wait...
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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