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So, I read this crazy long articleThe Artificial Intelligence Revolution: Part 1 - Wait But Why[^] which has actually been out for nearly 2 years now - I'm sure many of you have come across it. But I can't help but feel that there are things at play in this whole thing other than what the article mentions...

For one, it mentions that if we could somehow make a self-learning computer which is on the same level of humans, which would be called AGI - Artificial General Intelligence, then the jump from AGI to ASI would be super fast... Basically, this computer will harness the inherent advantages of a computer system over the human brain and essentially learn everything we've learned plus billions more times over at an exponential rate, at which point the computer will be to us as we are to an ant, in terms of intellect and smarts.

However, when reading through this, I can't help but ask this question though: Assuming a computer COULD jump online and essentially dig into all of our knowledge and "understand" it, that would still only allow it to access human knowledge. How is it going to derive super-intelligence from only having access to human-intelligence information? Supposedly, the arguments are out that if a computer reaches AGI, then within small order it will suddenly be billions of times more intelligent than a human... But there are only a finite number of actual resources for an intelligent computer to access... And they are written by humans.

In other words, say a lion makes a special machine that could learn from it, other lions, and progress... But it only had access to lion knowledge and was in itself built by a lion - meaning with the limitations of a lion... How would that machine now suddenly dive into an entire other dimension of intelligence?

Even if we made a machine which properly emulates/mimics the human mind... Then we are making a machine which mimics the human mind - meaning it has flaws and it is not superior to it. I feel like a superior race or more intelligent being could supply such a computer with advanced intelligence, but operating out of the human knowledgebase, that isn't quite likely.

Not only that, but we must also consider trial and error. Only so much can be learned from reading and processing written/online information... Some things, this AI would have to test out for itself, and not everything is a video game - meaning, the act of actually experiencing trial and error, would take time, much like it does for a human: In order to learn from mistakes made during an interview, I must first actually go to that interview, and since said interview is not until a month from now, I must now wait.

I understand where they're going with the concerns in the article, but at the same time, let's face it: stuff never turns out exactly how we imagine... And I find it unlikely that humans would be able to craft a machine that will somehow within a day or two of reading/analyzing human-made material, become billions of times more educated than humans and then take over...

Because human-made material is flawed. How many times have you read 3-5 books and still had questions or found that some are wrong even...

Food for thought.

modified 18-Sep-16 7:35am.

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