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I think this nails the subject[^].
Discuss.
[Disclosure - my coffee of choice is now an Iced Coffee made with locally roasted Robusta beans]
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Redundant.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: Robusta beans
With such imprudence we will find you in less than a week...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Is there such a thing as 'bad coffee'? That begs the question of what is considered to 'be' coffee. If we take the broadest approach, then, yes there IS bad coffee.
As a child, my parents only drank instant coffee; they normally bought "Pride of Arabia", but one time, they bought "Eight O'clock". They each made one cup, had one sip... and never touched it again.
Now, let's go to 'flavoured' coffee - by and large, I avoid it, but, I am smack dab out of coffee, it will do.
I prefer my beans dark roasted and my coffee strong; my friends like their coffee very weak, but... it's coffee and better than nothing.
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Instant and/or decaf do not a coffee make.
The rest is true. I also favour the stronger roast and grind my own for total coffeegeekgoodness.
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I drink most often Lavazza coffee. Every coffee of theirs is good, with the lowest grade being the "Suerte" (also the most economic) and the best is a tie between Gold Quality (extremely costly) and the Pink Label. The most common one is Red label, which is often discounted (and I bought 5 kilos of it last week).
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I've used a Hungarian bean Omnia for years, but now I'm here in [redacted] I decided to go with whatever I find. My new love is the locally roasted beans what costed £3.50/kg. 
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: £3.50/kg
Woah. Here 3.50€/kg is the worst and cheapest coffee ever. Lavazza costs 10€/Kg and it is pretty average, most coffee costs up to 20€/kg.
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If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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And then there us proper minded people who think coffee is the drink of Mordor, and should be banned. A nice cup of English Breakfast, steeped overnight, then microwaved is the proper way to get caffeine.
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stoneyowl2 wrote: A nice cup of English Breakfast, steeped overnight,
 You sure it doesn't crawl out of the cup and strangle you in your sleep?
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Nope. The microwave machine contains it, then I kill it with a few spoons of sugar...
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I love tea but that gets a GDIAF!
I make a pot of English Breakfast for the girls in the morning and I'll *hands back his UK passport* have what's left with mint and lemon after I return from the school [kamikazi] run.
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stoneyowl2 wrote: proper way to get caffeine
Implication being - we drink coffee for the caffeine hit.
However, I drink coffee - black - because I enjoy the taste.
I will OCCASIONALLY drink tea - again, black - but that is a rarity.
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If one wishes to drink tea for their caffeine fix than any other type besides Lapsang Souchong is a waste of water.
P.S. Don't bother to argue - your wrong.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: is now an Iced Coffee
Ever since I had throat surgery about 7 years ago, I have developed a liking to iced coffee. I prefer it to hot brewed.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: Discuss.
I don't think that you have a lack in experience with bad coffee, as bad coffee can be found in lots of places. Alternatively, you could have trouble identifying bad coffee.
Nagy Vilmos wrote: my coffee of choice is now an
Which proves above reasoning. Coffee is warm and anything with a fancy name is not coffee.
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I've drunk coffee in Merca, I know how it can be truly elephanted. As for temperature, it is hot here and cold drinks are best. Also, the best coffee in the world is 2am cold dregs as you check in the production fix.
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In my opinion, such as it is, I find that when the coffee beans are used twice (or even thrice) they tend to produce a most-unsavory elution.
In the states we refer to this a "Road Coffee".
The inspiration for one my sayings, "The best way to be awakened by a good hot cup of coffee is to spill it on your lap."
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W∴ Balboos wrote: coffee beans are used twice (or even thrice)
What! you used the bean multiple times, bloody hell that must taste awful.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: What! you used the bean multiple times, bloody hell that must taste awful.
The only part of that which is correct is the part about the taste.
"Road Coffee" is I suppose a more colloquial term than I realized. The size of the USA makes a road trip often rather long. For efficiency, whilst on the road, one will pull over to a coffee-merchant of some sort (deli, gas-station, whatever) and get their rendition of coffee. This can be, as it turns out, almost anything (not only in quality, but I suspect, in content, as well). Bought 'on the road', it's 'road coffee'. These might even be from 'largish' chains: I once stopped, in bleary-eyed desperation, at a "Roy Rogers" for coffee. It was very hot dirty water in a paper cup and with a plastic lid. Anyway - if you use the beans enough times they eventually act as a water filter . . .
Interestingly, the coming of coffee chains has caused an upheaval in road coffee. One can find chains vending likes of Lavazza, Peats, and Starbucks coffee that intend it to be good (they also charge a road-side premium).
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Of course there is bad coffee. In Russia I went to order coffee from a fine restaurant and my friend the Chef said to avoid the coffee here. He said the store did not pay the "extra" that the delivery guy required so they bags of rotted coffee beans (circa 1995). I noticed EVERY cup of coffee I saw was full. LOL. But EVEN good beans in Russia are used to make something approaching TAR more than coffee. I abstained after 1 cup. Or I drank HOT MILK with a drop of coffee, LOL.
I personally hate Starbucks and Bitter Coffee (caused by over grinding the beans, and releasing the tannic acids).
So, at work, I was the guy who broke out the label gun. I Labelled how many level scoops, the water mark on the pitcher of water, and reminded people if they picked up the coffee to grind it for a percolator. It makes much lighter and less bitter cup of coffee.
My Russian Friends call this "Coffee Juice" (as in Juice made from coffee, LOL).
I tend to drink 1-2 cups a day, and work out of the house. I switched to instant. I use a powder creamer. (My parents always drank instant).
I am sure what I like for coffee would be bad to others!
But when you are COLD and HUNGRY. Your standards go right out the window.
During Hurricane Wilma, without power, my neighbor came over with 2 hot cups of coffee.
We found a way to enjoy them anyways. Despite not even being close to my first choice.
And it was such a kind gesture.
BTW: Our office coffee was SO consistent, and EVERYONE made the coffee (I realized labeling worked when I worked at DOW and nobody made the coffee because nobody KNEW how. So I asked the person who made it, and I wrote it down and pinned it to the wall! Weeks later, she was thanking me, and I was just some dumb intern...)
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Worst kind of torture ever deviced by man[^]? (Link SFW) 
Ok, who's up next? 
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Nay, that would be Star Wars Holiday Special.
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If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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