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That's fine if you control the environment. If you're writing a website, it's going to be 10+ years before you can safely use those features without a "transpiler" to convert them back to ES5.
And even then, you'll still have users on IE6 complaining that your site is broken. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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That's the thing! If you look at this link ECMAScript 6 compatibility table[^] you ll see that almost every browser is now ECMA6 compatible.
The only and only exception is IE. So, let's move those old IE aficionados to Edge then
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Edge has 2 use cases:
1) Downloading Chrome
2) Amazement that they made it so much faster while making it feel like it's just broke!
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The ones who belly-ache about JavaScript are just frustrated VB6 users. Don't pay them any mind.
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Nope - once you know what you are doing it's perfectly fine.
[Edit]
Except for floats.
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Nope. It's not so bad as people make it out to be... different yes. Bad... nope.
Jeremy Falcon
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I am one that don't dislike javascript anymore, although I used to. In fact we just finished a quite complex system in which javascript plays a major role in both the server side and client side (see my signature) and it works quite well. As a matter of fact, I am feeling that the javascript codes we produced are more readable than the C# counter part (some of the equivalent logic were were realized in C# before) due to its functional style of representation
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Nope. Takes a little getting used to when you usually code in C# or something but it's just another language you can do some interesting things with.
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My first encountered with duct-typing, I though was bad idea. Now switching back to code in C#, I actually miss the duct-type and the ability of adding property on the go as in JavaScript.
No you are not the only weirdo.
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Aless Alessio wrote: you'll deal with my XAML and i ll take your javascript duties
No way! I'm not touching that mess!
Marc
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How about you do my CSS and I'll fix whatever problems you have (car, marriage, kids, anything is more fixable than CSS) 
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Of course that is not really Javascript's problem. I see plenty of stupid errors in Visual Studio. Sometimes when you have a mistake that means that a project does not compile there are a ton of others. Then there was the time that I had a WPF UserControl and the code behind did not see the names in the XAML. I would love to blame Javascript for this problem since I am not fond of the language for a number or reasons, but in this case I cannot.
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Clifford Nelson wrote: I see plenty of stupid errors in Visual Studio.
True - the ones that are worst are Linq errors - those errors messages usually have nothing to do with the actual error.
Marc
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use some codechecker like jslint. It may suck sometimes, but it also helps.
Do you know Swift? 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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KarstenK wrote: use some codechecker like jslint. It may suck sometimes, but it also helps.
I can only imagine the thousands of warning and errors produced by this project, which is built around Django and Backbone.
KarstenK wrote: Do you know Swift?
Nope -- I take it it has obscure error messages too?
Marc
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9 out of 10 hates JavaScript. But if you have the right tools (debugging/diagnostics) then you should be fine 
PS: I also hate JS. Thanks to TypeScript for making my life less stressed! 
modified 17-Aug-16 11:29am.
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Vincent Maverick Durano wrote: Thanks to TypeScript for making my life less stressed!
Why do I not believe you?
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: Why do I not believe you?
Because you hate JavaScript. 
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Jeremy Falcon
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10 minutes is fast to find that. I'm serious. I've had a single missing comma cost me over an hour.
Painful.
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raddevus wrote: I've had a single missing comma cost me over an hour.
Same here. It took forever to actually realize it even wanted a comma. That was in my n00b days working with Backbone. Sort of trial by fire, was asked to implement a bunch of pages on existing project, never used Backbone before.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: It took forever to actually realize it even wanted a comma. That was in my n00b days working with...
AngularJS (1.x)
Exact same experience, just a different JS library. 
Hilarious!! and/or Terrible!!
All for the lack of a decent compiler and good warnings.
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My wife had a missing period that cost me 22 years. 
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Marc man, what are you using for an IDE? function is a keyword and should be highlighted. You're making this hard on yourself man.
Jeremy Falcon
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