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dan!sh 12-Aug-16 1:29

12-Aug-16 1:29

Dealing with JS, fancy JS libraries, HTML and CSS for a while now. Horrible things. Someone please make windows forms "cool" again as being "cool" drives everything now.

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Re: I HATE WEB FRONT END

Nathan Minier12-Aug-16 1:41

Nathan Minier

12-Aug-16 1:41

I think this is more a question of "better" than being "cool".

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Re: I HATE WEB FRONT END

peterkmx12-Aug-16 1:44

peterkmx

12-Aug-16 1:44

that's why I thought that ASP.net was a good idea with clean "code behind", and I feel your pain as I experienced this myself, but luckily on a small web project

Re: I HATE WEB FRONT END

Johnny J.12-Aug-16 1:50

Johnny J.

12-Aug-16 1:50

I can only say that I know exactly what you're talking about. Windows forms is my preferred platform, but nowadays everything has to be web. Sigh | :sigh:

I grew so tired of it that I switched from (web)-development to Microsoft Dynamics AX development. and what happens: Microsoft develops a new version of AX in which they remove the Rich client and make the web client the only alternative. So now I'm friggin back in web development! Mad | :mad:

They were on the right track with Silverlight where you could develop clients that could run both as windows clients and web clients, both then they had to go and discontinue that! Thumbs Down | :thumbsdown:

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Re: I HATE WEB FRONT END

Nelek12-Aug-16 2:58

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12-Aug-16 2:58

Johnny J. wrote:
and what happens: Microsoft develops a new version of AX in which they remove the Rich client and make the web client the only alternative.

As M$ had done any better in other staff lately Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

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Re: I HATE WEB FRONT END

Ravi Bhavnani12-Aug-16 5:44

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12-Aug-16 5:44

Johnny J. wrote:
but nowadays everything has to be web.

Not everything. Smile | :)

There's a lot of work going on in native mobile development.

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Re: I HATE WEB FRONT END

Vincent Maverick Durano12-Aug-16 2:22

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12-Aug-16 2:22

You don't hate them. You just lack the "interest" to embrace them, or perhaps, you're just lazy to learn them? Poke tongue | ;-P

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charlieg12-Aug-16 2:32

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12-Aug-16 2:32

Vincent, since I too hate web front end, you are being cruel Smile | :)

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Re: I HATE WEB FRONT END

Vincent Maverick Durano12-Aug-16 2:49

Vincent Maverick Durano

12-Aug-16 2:49

You must hate web more If you were to support IE6/Netscape Laugh | :laugh:

I must admit that I hate web development before, most especially when dealing with CSS, JavaScripts and cross-browser compatibility. But I have no choice but to learn and embrace them, I need to work for a living. Wink | ;)

Re: I HATE WEB FRONT END

charlieg12-Aug-16 4:21

charlieg

12-Aug-16 4:21

Hey, maybe its when I did web development the most advanced tool I had was notepad?

Or if I was working on the backend, there was simply no way to actually debug server side scripts. They just gave you some mystical apache server error.

I am sure things have gotten better, and I appreciate the "I need to work for a living." I suppose if the rate were high enough, I could do front end web stuff again.

Smile | :)

Re: I HATE WEB FRONT END

Vincent Maverick Durano12-Aug-16 4:27

Vincent Maverick Durano

12-Aug-16 4:27

charlieg wrote:
I suppose if the rate were high enough, I could do front end web stuff again.

Make sense! Smile | :)

Re: I HATE WEB FRONT END

PeejayAdams12-Aug-16 2:34

PeejayAdams

12-Aug-16 2:34

I hate them, too.

Thankfully, I haven't done any webby stuff for a few years but I always regarded HTML as something that has spent way too long in God's waiting room; CSS as a complete pain in the butt and Javascript as absolute filth.

WPF rocks!

Re: I HATE WEB FRONT END

harold aptroot12-Aug-16 4:37

harold aptroot

12-Aug-16 4:37

Oddly, I don't hate it. I don't really like it, but I feel the same way about WPF (why can't it just make things simple?) and WinForms (way too rigid, unless you accept creating your own controls, which is hell). HTML, CSS and JS all kind of suck, but so does everything else.

Re: I HATE WEB FRONT END

Tom Deketelaere12-Aug-16 9:37

Tom Deketelaere

12-Aug-16 9:37

harold aptroot wrote:
WinForms (way too rigid, unless you accept creating your own controls, which is hell)

I loved creating my own controls.
I loved doing winforms.

I still remember the feeling I had when I (forcibly) switched from winforms to web-development about 4 years ago.
Complete disappointment.
Before then I thought the web was way way ahead of what it actually was (as it turned out).
I couldn't (and still can't) believe how much work and how difficult it is to create even simple things for the web.

Disclaimer: I still avoid as much front-end development as I possibly can so I'm not 'up' with all the latest and greatest stuff.
But from time to time I have to dive into JS and CSS and HTML and I still hate it.

Tom

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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz12-Aug-16 11:39

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12-Aug-16 11:39

Windows forms had it's own set of issues and painful ones at that...

Good luck...

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Cornelius Henning12-Aug-16 0:53

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12-Aug-16 0:53

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Re: Don't mess with robots!

KarstenK12-Aug-16 2:03

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12-Aug-16 2:03

Cant the robot speak in Postscript to a printer? Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

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Re: Don't mess with robots!

Marco Bertschi12-Aug-16 2:39

Marco Bertschi

12-Aug-16 2:39

Can't you speak in Chinese to a Hong Konger?

Re: Don't mess with robots!

Nelek12-Aug-16 2:59

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12-Aug-16 2:59

Yes... but other thing is if he would understand it Poke tongue | ;-P

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CCC-12-08-2016 - Solution

pkfox11-Aug-16 22:41

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11-Aug-16 22:41

We carry this endless bread around wretch (7)

As pointed out by Richard I spelt retch as wretch - apols for that

Endless bread = Bage (Bagel)
retch = gag

We carry this = Baggage

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modified 13-Aug-16 4:34am.

Re: CCC-12-08-2016

Mark Parity11-Aug-16 23:55

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11-Aug-16 23:55