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I fight against those all the time.

If it absolutely must be fixed and released in a matter of minutes (I'm working RAD, so that does happen), then I might do it quick-and-dirty, release the fix, then immediately start fixing it up correctly for the next version.

But in any other scenario, I'll put in the upfront time and do it right. If I start getting time pressure from above, my response is usually about the same. "I can do this in [short time period], but it'll be ugly and unstable, and it'll just cause more problems down the road. If I'm going to do this properly, I'll have to [do various things] and it'll take at least [longer time period]."

Of course, if you're talking to customers, and not other technical folks, you're probably better off just giving them the longer estimate and doing it right... A Q&D solution that breaks is worse than nothing at all, because it gives a bad impression of your system, and of you. Even worse, the next time something goes wrong, the users might think, "Well, I could ask him to fix this, but he might just make it worse, so I'll just work around it." Then you have secret bugs accumulating alongside counter-intuitive user behavior, and that's a recipe for disaster.
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