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BillWoodruff wrote: n choosing the appropriate disguise for their own inabilities and intellectual lacunae.
Like "I know Haskell, so I'm going to do stuff in F#." 
Marc
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I beg pardon if my question annoy you, but you miss point. I say this as the example only, I am not expert in everything and not good explaining.
Some of these things I also do myself when inexperienced. Maybe I am imbecile too but this industry expects of us so much knowledge in different things in very whort time. It is like asking the surgeon who is expert in brain to operate on heart and the next day do kidney transplant and treat psychological patient that same night, and also write document for nurse to do same things after reading it.
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Member 12345678 wrote: but this industry expects of us so much knowledge in different things in very whort time.
It's not the industry, it's incompetent CTO's that expect 1) people to come up to speed quickly on complicated technology and 2) everything to written simple enough for a beginner to be able to understand immediately.
Marc
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You missed my favorite: demanding you do something a certain way and then freaking out when you do.
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Joe Woodbury wrote: demanding you do something a certain way and then freaking out when you do.
Or the other side of the coin - giving you cart blanche to implement a solid architecture, then freaking out that it's too complicated for the beginners.
Marc
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I enjoy my work as I like to code, I also changed careers to Development from Sales. I like the fact in IT I get paid for the work done, and my check is not down to fate or luck!
I have liked doing puzzles and problem solving since primary school! I see coding as an extension of this! So as I have little worries on how much I get paid and I am doing something I really like or am well suited to; I guess I am not the person to ask am I doing something I enjoy!!
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Member 12345678 wrote: where to put parentheses and a lot of things make them look like the imbeciles
Does seem childish, if you compare that to saving a life, with blood on the walls, sirens going.. .but a wrong parentheses could actually be the cause of an accident.
Member 12345678 wrote: but intelligent people treat others better?
No, but the wise do 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Basically you are asking the wrong question and you know that. Whether or not other people enjoy the work makes no difference. What matters is how you feel about it. Put the issues with your current coworkers aside and ask yourself if you like programming on a basic level. If yes, you can find a way to make it meaningful. If not, you need to get out.
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Yes you are right but enjoying the programming is not enough if other coworkers are difficult people
I only ask how it is like in other places because then maybe I can change the company
But if this work attract more people unpleasant it makes no difference, because everywhere is same problem
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You worked for MSF and that gave you a sense of purpose.
Try to find a domain in programming that will give you a sense of purpose.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Member 12345678 wrote: Are lot of programmers behave like a**hole, or only my company is different? I think I make the wrong choise
Unless you're one of the people who participates in the arguments, then yeah, sounds like you made a wrong choice.
As for company size, it makes no difference, its all about the team members and the manager. Big companies tend to be more formal about some of these things that cause arguments -- they tell you how they want it done -- which eliminates a lot of the arguing, but don't work there if you can't accept how they do things.
Don't forget, the interview is also your opportunity to decide if you want to work with them .
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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Oh yes, assholes can be annoying. It's hard to avoid them though. Even if you somehow avoid everyone, there will still be one left.
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Hi All,
I have just done an IKM Assesment, I feel unsure of it. A lot of the questions I would have prefered to see the whole code for rather than you are presented with this XXX it would help to know if XXX blew up what it would affect. I also think some of the questions were a little off, asking about digital signatures and web down loads, I was doing an Embedded Test!
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I Killed Mom?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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International Knowledge Measurement...
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Mongo only pawn in game of life.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I think this is the good phrase to tell people who play the game in dangerous places
Someone post it here earlier I think, I forgot.
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That's my line!
Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.
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I suspect that it has a big advantage.
As in we can use it to identify where the gene pool needs more chlorine.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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exactly... !
Thanks & Regards
Puneet Goel
Save Paper >> Save Tree >> Save Humanity
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