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Steve Naidamast21-Jun-16 4:22
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Harley L. Pebley21-Jun-16 8:09
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This is what's worked for me in a similar situation: lead by example.

Rather than say "this is cr@p, we need to change it all", instead work on what's assigned and make changes around the code you touch in order to improve it. Don't talk to anyone about refactoring, just do it in the course of doing the work at hand. That is what refactoring is all about anyway. It's not a separate task. Eventually, hopefully they can see the changes and recognize for themselves the improvement. Then they'll have a template to follow.

Improving an existing code base is a marathon, not a sprint.
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