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Eddy Vluggen wrote: If you do not like a command line
I think I stopped liking command line somewhere around the year 2000. And it took me longer than most people. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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GUIs are good for a few specific things, but CLIs are better at everything else.
![Badger | [badger,badger,badger,badger...]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/badger.gif) OpenVMS rules!
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Whenever I am forced to use Linux I always head straight to the CLI. It is the only constant in a murky world of indifferent guis.
We're philosophical about power outages here. A.C. come, A.C. go.
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I am always happy to see someone praise OpenVMS, not to mention things like VAXset, which was very powerful in its day.
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No fan of PowerShell either I presume? 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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12 Kb volume - that would be your backup device?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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It is not a screenshot of mine - just one I found on the internet to demonstrate...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Just click on the folder icon, then enter a search. Or better yet open a terminal and use "find", which is much more capable than anything else.
I never trust searching files in Windows as it utilized plugins for various file types, and if there is no plugin, it sometimes refuses to search inside the file.
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Lemme get this straight:
1. You're a programmer
2. You've found a shortfall in linux
3. Instead of spending an hour making a front-end for Find (let's face it: it'd be a piece of piss; it's just that no-one has done it, yet), you'd rather bitch about it and let microsoft pwn your machines.
What the linux community is missing is windows developers, who could turn it into something so much better.
Unless major changes happen, windows is a lost cause, because the average windows users (very much including the "I don't know much about computers"ones) do not want to be treated as mindless apple fanbois are, so get with a program that will make things better -- either by kicking ms' @rse to get it to toe the line, or by helping provide an alternative.
And something to consider is that if you stick with windows, you could miss out on a HUGE market, in the future.
Posted from one of my five -- it was six, but a failing power supply took one out, over the week-end -- windows machines (which, like three of the others, is dual boot with linux distros)
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Instead of spending an hour making a front-end for Find
You flatter me. 
You can also make a find in Windows or anything else you want in Windows as well. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: ou can also make a find in Windows
It's been done.
Do something new and original.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: What the linux community is missing is windows developers
Can't imagine why that would be!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Could be because windows developers, who already know the things that linux developers need to learn, aren't willing to leap into a new environment.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Yes, because it makes no economic sense to do so. A developer's first priority is to feed and clothe themselves and their dependents. Why would one eschew the multiverse of opportunities the ubiquity of Windows provides to do that?
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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Yeah, like no-one has 90 minutes a week to spare.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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9082365 wrote: Yes, because it makes no economic sense to do so. A developer's first priority is to feed and clothe themselves and their dependents
Exactly.
My first few years out of college were spent in the Mac world although my background was Unix. Unfortunately, after that job ended, I found myself without a marketable skillset, and was lucky enough to retool for the Windows 3.1 market (yes, this was a few years back  ).
Not knocking Macs (or Unix), but at that time and place I couldn't find a job using those skill sets. I loved both environments, but the jobs were in DOS/Windows ... and so was I.
Since then? I go with market share. Got a family to support, so playing with the coolest tools takes a second priority behind having a paycheck. The great thing about the current world is that I can work in a Windows world, but can keep up knowledge in Linux, Android, etc. Computers are cheap enough that I can do what I want.
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Yup, you moved to windows when windows was the future, just like I did, but it's looking less and less like windows will be the future, in future.
They're continually burning bridges in every direction. The only thing that keeps them at the top is ms office, which businesses can't live without because of retraining costs/problems -- but they've been doing their level best to ruin that, too, with their constant "great, new features" which destroy features that people are used to using (forcing "invisible retraining" that costs a fortune in time and effort).
But take care now of one of the millions of tiny annoyances in linux (which are obvious to us windows guys, but seemingly transparent/unimportant to linux devs), and you'll have a foot firmly in the door.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Yup, you moved to windows when windows was the future, just like I did, but it's looking less and less like windows will be the future, in future.
yup! Which is why I play with Linux and am looking at Android. I have no clue which the next major platform will be, but I will be ready to move on!
At the same time, Windows is heavily entrenched in major corporations. It may fizzle ... but that could take years, even decades. So we'll keep our eyes open along with our options! 
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Mark_Wallace wrote: less and less like windows will be the future, in future.
What will take it's place, do you think? And when?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Lemme just check my crystal ball...
Oh, wait!
I'm not a fortune teller!
But what I do see is that, despite the absolutely massive wumao campaign by ms (orders of magnitude larger than any they've tried to pull off in the past), the "best/safest windows ever" (according to the wumao) is becoming more and more reviled by average users and business users, not just the savvy.
It's going way beyond any anti-ms stuff in the past -- but that's hardly surprising; two boner OSes in a row is five too many; and the mess they're making of ms office + the ridiculously heavy push toward cloud services (which most people and few businesses trust) is really feeding back hard (not that they're paying attention to negative feedback).
The biggest problem is that they've put themselves in a position where they can't U-turn -- they can't do a "sorry about Vista; have Weven" again, because, well, you can't do that more than once without looking completely incompetent, and you certainly can't do it after pushing Two duff revisions of a product as hard as they've pushed them.
They won't collapse, obviously; they're way too big. But they're forcing themselves into the same position as Big Blue, where they'll still be a household name, but not many "households" will actually use their flagship product.
If linux weren't such a pile of user-unfriendly sh1te, it would have overtaken ms in more than just the server market, by now.
As windows users start looking for alternatives, linux will grow, and so will the demand for the kind of user-friendliness that windows users are used to.
We're entering another period where names will be made. I think that's cool -- and about time!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I've heard these same arguments for about 15 years now. I thought maybe you had something. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Did wheelman570z get banned, or something?
He made valid points, but when I answered, I was told that the message I was responding to didn't exist.
OK, so maybe he was a tiny bit vehement (a really tiny bit; totally acceptable), but there was no bad language, and expressing opinions vehemently is what lounges are for -- and, as I say, he made valid points that are worth discussing.
I feel like I've been robbed of an intelligent discussion.
Oh, wait!
I Have been robbed of an intelligent discussion
Now I'm stuck with that bluddy ryandev!
Om Mane Padme Om, and all that.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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