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That about sums up IE.
The latest batch of Windows updates seemed to push the laptop over the edge, it became nearly unusable (has mcafee too, which isnt going to help)
SlimJet is running a real treat, got to take my hat off to the devs, its a great tool.
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Long ago (several years back), there came loads of feature updates for this site. When I came back after a break, I saw so many things changed/updated. It felt like, Damn! the last cool place on web is now screwed!.
I'm not sure if that's the time it was moving from Asp to Asp.net. Don't recollect, but I think I even wrote to Chris saying saying The new pile of feature dumps suck totally.  It's completely un-intuitive. And all those 'recommendations'.
I don't know where went that guy who wrote all these. Now I don't even remember how the older site looked like. The current one feels so much at home. I think I had just walked through the same usual User-behavior, resisting change!
But oops! I remember Chris saying it out loud here in Lounge that Asp.net sucked and Asp was better, when this transition was being done! Do I smell some change resistance here 
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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Had kind of a nice crispiness to it - a bit busy, but pleasantly crispy
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So I keep getting offers from my favorite on-line vendors for extra wide curved screen monitors. The prices are fiercely higher than if they were not curved.
I'm of the opinion that curved monitors are an items whose time has not yet come. It's just a sales hype to get some extra coins from the early adopters.*
Opine and Rant as you see fit.
* The first ones to get Win8, too . . .
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Some year ago I had the Samsung Nexus which was cirved. It was really fine, the curved was a positive aspect.
But I wont pay a hefty fee for that (or most any other) feature anyway. But maybe test it, if I would get it for a trial.
Press F1 for help or google it.
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They could actually be a solution for my problem now - I have a 24" widescreen at work and the corners of the screen are too farking far! It either strains my neck a lot or the borders of the screen are useless for me. If it was curved...
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I use two 30" monitors and a smaller 24" in the middle and it's fine...
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How about just sitting a bit further back?
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I can't move the monitor back for two reasons: not enough space, and my eyesight is poor so if I do I won't be able to see anything. Definetely not good.
Moving back my chair would completely annihilate my back - my workstation is not ergonomic in any aspect, the chair is 10-15 years old and abused and so on... so I try enlarging the characters on screen. Also the old monitor had a nifty feature that allowed to vary the thickness of the lines drawn on screen, this one has not. I have to get used to it, but long sessions leave me almost blind for a while.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
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If you're a contractor at home, invest in yourself.
If it's as an employee, you might somehow break it to your boss that you'd be more productive if you were more comfortable. You problem clearly isn't just the monitor. Figure out what would fix things and present to him (or go on a buying spree).
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W∴ Balboos wrote: If it's as an employee, you might somehow break it to your boss that you'd be more productive if you were more comfortable.
So they sack me to get another person. Literally in this Company passed through a lot of people that went away and remained only the Fantozzi, the meek who accept anything.
I'm already looking for other companies of course... Also, when I'll really want to have something I can simply call 3-4 sick times in a row for backache / headache, this would automatically trigger both an investigation and a compensation process for deliberately provoking a cronic health disturb.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Yeah, the price hike isn't justified by the small benefit they'd bring IMO (though I confess I've never tried one).
I do know someone who uses three (non-curved) 55-inch monitors - if they were curved they'd be a full semicircle.
I'll take my usual approach of waiting until the price drops & I've tried them before even thinking of shelling out my hard-earned.
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I have assumed that the only reason one would want a curved monitor was for watching movies/video, or gaming, from much farther away from the screen than the typical distances your eyes are at when you are keyboarding away doing whatever.
Is this assumption incorrect ?
I welcome enlightenment.
cheers, Bill
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I'd imagine that it depends: if the curve makes the whole area of the screen seem equidistant from your eyes, then it should reduce the refocusing you have to do to view the whole monitor. Pretty sure that wouldn't be good for your eyes in the long term though...
And even at my age I have no problem moving the focus from any part of my two 22" monitors to any other, so I think "gimmick" myself.
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I bet there are some studies somewhere of the effects of using a curved screen relatively close-up on eye-movements, and focusing.
And, how much do I really use my "peripheral vision" when I am coding ... perhaps attending intensely to a relatively small area of the screen at any one moment in time is more typical of how I work in VS. But, I had no teevee in my larval stages, and using computers came around age 40; my first tv-tube monitors were convex (yuck) ... so ... whadda I know about the current generation ... for all I know they are evolving multi-tasking eyeballs can move independently like lizards.
... mmmm ... time to Google.
oh: how unsurprising this should appear on a Samsung news site: [^].
well, here's a PDF that sounds like it might have some kind of scientific content: [^].
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
modified 26-May-16 10:14am.
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My usual want for a larger monitor (TV) would be to sit further back so my eyes can be more relaxed. When you sit further back, so far as I can do in a gedanken experiment, would mitigate any advantage perceived advantage it might supply. Perceived to be taken literally and figuratively.
I would hypothesize that if one were attempting to fill their entire field of vision it might have some benefit. I leave that aspect to the theaters.
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Upvote for using gedanken without, evidently, schadenfreude 
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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I surprised no one seems to be speaking from experience of actually using a curved extra wide monitor. I have an LG 34" IPS Curved UltraWide monitor that I've been using for a couple of months now and I have to say I am very happy with it.
When sitting at the monitor, you can't see the curve, but it does seem to be slightly easier to see the corners. Of course, it could be in my head too.
The ultrawide 21:9 aspect ratio is also very nice. I like the factor that although it's wide, it's not tall, so I don't find myself getting a crook in my neck looking up to the top of the screen.
Just my two cents.
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You like the extra wide format? I'm the opposite.
I first experienced it on a laptop. Great for movies, but I needed it for work. I had the choice of only seeing a relatively few lines of code/text with a readable font or looking at a whole page that was too small to read. I've gotten used to what are now the regular aspect ratio monitors, 16:9, but for working I found the old-format (4:3) even better.
Also - to make up for the deficit, above, one needs to get a very large monitor, indeed, and thus pay a premium and lose a lot of physical real-world territory to accommodate its excess bulk.
But, I can certainly accept that different work habit will optimize at different points.
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I do the majority of coding in VS and I've found a couple of good uses for the wide format.
It lets me not worry about the sizing of the left and right panes in Visual Studio. Mainly, the Solution Explorer panel and the Tools panel. Those panels can creep into the central panel and leave you feeling like you are coding on a post it note.
Another use is when pinning each app to one half of the screen, it's like having 2 4:3 screens side by side (I didn't figure out if it actually works out to 4:3 on each half). So, browser in one side, Visual Studio in the other. It works pretty well for me.
You are correct in that the monitor probably cost way more than 2 4:3 monitors, but overall there is less clutter (one set of cables).
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I use a pair of 24" widescreen monitors and have them angled where the monitors meet. Otherwise the far corners are further away than the centre of the "screen". I guess a curved 48" or 54" monitor would achieve the same result.
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Unfortunately, 34" is the only size in computer monitors and it's about 32" wide.
I would love it if they made on 48" wide (Ultra Ultra Wide). I've considered getting a second monitor, but it would take up 64" and that is a lot of desktop space.
It also be nice if they increased the rate of the curve on a monitor that large, going for the wrap around effect.
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Yes; I'm sure eventually we'll get to the size we want. Until then, 34" is indeed about as good as it gets.
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I have the Dell version of that one at home and I'm very happy with it. The work on is the flat 34" LG.
Originally at work I had two pretty crappy monitors and a huge bezel between them. The UW gave up maybe a few pixels on the sides (as I said crappy), but the lack of bezel just makes it so easy to use. Of course, the prior ones weren't IPS and the color accuracy was absolutely terrible so when writing proposals and putting in graphs or pictures I had no clue how they would look in print until I got someone to print it on a nice printer.
I think you're right about the aspect ratio. I think that the human eye is more suited to looking at things left and right instead of up and down so it makes sense. It does mean that I put my start bar on the left though.
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