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Assembler and VB6 in the same breath!?
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Quote: To be an honest programmer, you should master at least 3 high level languages and two level languages (assembler and VB6 are the choices of most).
I was dead laughing at that VB6 comment.
i cri evry tiem
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Learn what you need to complete the project.
Every project is different.
It's as much about your chosen framework as it is the language you choose.
The chosen framework can be a factor in choosing the language.
Conversely, the language you prefer will be a factor in choosing the appropriate framework.
All of this will be dependent on the chosen platform (PC, Mac, Mobile, Web).
Many times, at least ONE of those factors will be a requirement of the customer, possibly two, and most likely all three.
Go forth, and code.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Go forth, and code.
in Forth?
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Yes, certainly not Lisp - It would be too hard to understand what he was saying then! 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Duncan Edwards Jones wrote: in Forth?
No Scratch that!
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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/ravi
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Member 12502619 wrote: you can call me jocka
If you want us to call you jocka, you should change your username from the generic "Member nnnn" to something a little more "personal"
But you'll always be "19" to me... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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for some reason i cant change the name,do i have to pay or...
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you can pay me if you want. 
I'd rather be phishing!
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Yes, OriginalGriff normally charges £5 per name change. But it depends on what name you want. A fancy name like "Benedict Cumberbatch" would cost you more. But I'm sure that you could probably get "Justin Bieber" for free... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Benedict Cumberbatchfile ?
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Look up in the top right corner of this page, and hover your mouse over your current username "Member 12502619".
A drop-down will appear - click on "My Settings"
A page will appear. Look at the textbox beside "Your Display Name" and change that to something that is free ("Jocka" is taken by an existing member so you can't use just that).
Press the "Save my Settings" button.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Why are you giving it to him for free when I had to pay £5??? 
Besides, it's a SPA anyway, so Jocka2 will be appropriate...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Because your cheque bounced!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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That's nothing. My reality check bounces every single day.... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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OriginalGriff wrote: But you'll always be "19" to me
I bet you say that to every 19th newcomer.
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A programming language is a tool. Use the right tool for the job. If you don't know the tool, then learn it.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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I thought you could fix anything with a hammer and/or some duct tape... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Naaahh! Hammer and duct tape only fix 87.3% of problems. Throw in chewing gum and beer (NOT at the same time!) to get the other 24.7%. Ooops, too much beer.
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Member 12502619 wrote: how many programming languages do i have to know in order to make an effective app,like lets say a game or a social media app
Two different things, I'll pick the latter.
Web front-end:
Javascript
HTML (not a language, but you have to know it)
Web back-end:
The blue pill: C#
The red pill (poison): Python / Ruby / Javascript, et al.
But more importantly, for both front and back ends, you are going to have to choose from a variety of frameworks. Almost always jQuery for the front end, plus whatever you want to do with making it look better than plain vanilla HTML controls. Then there's a variety of MVC frameworks to choose from, like Angular, Backbone, etc.
On the back-end, you have the same nightmare. Do you roll your own web server, use ASP.NET, Razor, or if you chose the red pill, buy into the framework, like Django, Ruby on Rails, node.js, respectively.
It's a mess.
As to combining different types of languages together, sure, you can call C++ with C#, you can call C with Python/Ruby/Javascript extensions, if you want a desktop app that runs a web app, you can use CefSharp to write stuff in C# and talk to Javascript, and vice-versa.
It's a mess.
Marc
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wow,well detailed,thanks man
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Marc Clifton wrote: The red pill (poison)
... but but ... it allows to escape the Matrix[^] !
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Compared to pure desktop development, web development is an ugly beast. If your main goal is to learn programming and not to develop some web app then I'd suggest to start with desktop development and then work your way from there.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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to be honest, you're VERY far from serious application development if you ask these type of questions.
Of course, nothing prevents you from learning. There's much more to "programming" than you would think.
my article[^] explains this to some extend. Rarely is a large application a one man job. Asking how many languages you need to know is irrelevant. You´ll need to understand the concepts, you'll need to build up experience and you'll need to learn how to design systems properly. And when you have all that knowledge and know-how, you'll need time to do it.
So basically you'll need to learn to crawl before you walk. Start with hello world and move on to more difficult algorithms, IO systems, web services, database design, patterns, best practices. When you get more experienced the languages will come as needed: C#, C++, java, python, javascript and "secundary" languages like HTML, XML and SQL. (and more)
You'll also learn the best tools to use for each of these.
Grab a book, follow courses and get your hands dirty from basic towards advanced and things will become clear quickly.
hope this helps.
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