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charlieg wrote: What the hell is wrong with you MM? Clearly, something hit a nerve. But to degrade to this slop....
Jesus freak trolls.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Me thinks you need to chill a bit... whatever.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Evolution definitely has a sense of humor, at least, a twisted one. It created humans, after all. 
Marc
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A "creator" might need a sense of humour for that, but it's par for the course for evolution.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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So, below, magadaam's post had a link. Going there i read about all the lovely things Cortana can do for the users. All those butt-wipes on TV saying how they're so glad their privacy's protected and how important the privacy of their phone is to them. Heaven forbid the FBI or NSA gets information from some phones.
Cortana - it's just an overt version of what they've already signed up for with the need for the conveniences of all of the apps they can't live without. All that personal data be uploaded and all that privacy being downloaded (read the "flushed down the toilet") - but Apple's their hero, with Micro$oft giving them their full support, . . . etc etc etc.
This is the true meaning of that expression "No Brainer" - the vast sweating hordes of users with no real regard for their privacy deciding how important it is to them.
And who's going to give up their sultry-voiced-helpful-allknowing-talking-phone-based-personal-assistant?
From the Wikipedia (=why it's too late before you start):
Privacy
Cortana indexes and stores user information. It can be disabled; this will cause Windows search to search the Web as well as the local computer, but this can be turned off. Turning Cortana off does not in itself delete user data stored on Microsoft's servers, but it can be deleted by user action.[47]
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Well... the name is megaadam and nothing else. For the record, my post was regarding how we spend a vast part our lives, the link was a source reference only.
And I do of course agree with you! Google, Apple, MS etc all try to provide with you with these "indispensable" featuers which I always... eh, gladly dispense. Premium member at the super market? Not me!
Life is too shor
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Actually (and despite the extra 'a' I awarded you), your post wasn't being replied to. I followed your link, read about Cortana, and had the urge to purge.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Cortana isn't enabled on this computer anyway: if I click on it's little circle, I get "Before I can help, you'll need to go the Settings, and change your Speech language to one I can speak".
Apparently, "English" isn't one of them... 
Can I be bothered to fix it? No. It uses Bing, so it won't find anything useful anyway!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Well - I can help you with that.
There's a movie that can help you clean up that unintelligible accent, reforming it into something not only more realistic but more satisfying and infinitely more accessible.
It can be accessed by studying Dick van Dyke in the "Mary Poppins" movie.
Trust me on this - when you can speak like Burt then your Cortana will flirt!
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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And one more language lesson[^] from a classic movie - My Fair Lady of course! 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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You are assuming that I want my computer to listen when I speak to it.
Given most of the words that I currently use in the direction of my computer, that probably wouldn't be a good idea... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Didn't MS recently encounter a similar problem with their AI bot?
Should have known Griff was involved
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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Nothing to see here, move along...
:InnocentWhistleSmiley:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: "Before I can help, you'll need to go the Settings, and change your Speech language to one I can speak".
Well, you may have your OS locale set to en-WA (Welsh English), that would explain it...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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I guess she's not into sheepslang?
Rules for the FOSW ![ ^]
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OriginalGriff wrote: Apparently, "English" isn't one of them...
Scroll down to W
...for a more local language!
Life is too shor
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Heaven forbid the FBI or NSA gets information from some phones.
You've obviously missed the point. Most folks are not too worried about the FBI or NSA getting some information from phones. Its a little creepy but "so what?" - most people have nothing to interest the FBI or NSA.
Its the next logical step that worries intelligent people. The backdoor to our phones is stolen by or leaked to hackers & thieves who do have an interest in our data. Kapeesh?
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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It wasn't a back-door that was at issue (w/apple) - it's that the attempt to get in would have wiped the data. Good anti-theft for the device, perhaps. The FBI wanted a method to crack the (trivial 4-digit) key without destroying the data. Then they still have to decrypt it by finding the key.
Now - what has apple gotten for their PR-Driven protests? The FBI got their own crack - and that means that all phones are cracked from a logical point of view. Much worse than apple helping them out and trying to keep the thing under control.
But my point was all of these people belly-aching about privacy and they (cluelessly) give away everything because it's not so obviously in-their-face. Hence the double-wetting incident.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: It wasn't a back-door that was at issue (w/apple)...
Defeating a mechanism that stops brute force password attempts is a form of a backdoor. 
W∴ Balboos wrote: Now - what has apple gotten for their PR-Driven protests?
PR driven, huh? Ask yourself - is there any protest Apple could have waged that you would not have considered "PR driven"? What about Microsoft? Google? Facebook? What about the company you work for?
W∴ Balboos wrote: Much worse than apple helping them out and trying to keep the thing under control.
No, I don't think so. Apple can now try to figure out the FBI crack and stop it.
W∴ Balboos wrote: But my point was all of these people belly-aching about privacy and they (cluelessly) give away everything...
There certainly are a bunch of people in this world who do not understand every single aspect of privacy. You and I among them. Certainly we're all entitled to our own opinions about the issues we are aware of?
There are two types of people in this world: those that pronounce GIF with a soft G, and those who do not deserve to speak words, ever.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Then they still have to decrypt it by finding the key.
 Once they have the PIN they simply log on as if they are the user. In what world does the user have to decrypt their own phone and find the key to do it? At no time was the dispute with Apple ever about finding the key or decrypting the data. It was entirely about the failsafe which meant that a brute force crack of the PIN would result in a self-destruct if it was unsuccessful in the first few attempts.
W∴ Balboos wrote: The FBI got their own crack
So they say. I've yet to see any unequivocal proof that this is the case.
W∴ Balboos wrote: that means that all phones are cracked from a logical point of view
Well, not all of them, obviously. But this would have been the case irrespective of who employed it first and for what reason. You don't seriously think that Apple's decisions affected the desire of hackers and crackers, white or black hatted, to claim victory over Apple's safeguards at the earliest possible moment? If this crack is real then it has always been possible and its discovery was always inevitable. If it was as easy as the manufacturer revealing that they had a way to bypass their own security to stop anyone other than the manufacturer attempting it we would have been free of the bad guys and the security consultants a long time ago!
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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9082365 wrote: In what world does the user have to decrypt their own phone and find the key to do it?
You misinterpret that point. The encryption/decryption is done in the background (like https, for example). The data is stored encrypted.
9082365 wrote: So they say. I've yet to see any unequivocal proof that this is the case.
And I've yet to see unequivocal proof that Apple doesn't already have their 'back door' available for their own use. So - what does that do to your point?
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| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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All apple has to do is use robust internal encryption and it will take too long to be worthwhile for the hacker to hack a phone (or whatever). This might mean the user has their own password (heaven forbid!) - and if they really give a damn about their security, it won't be 'ABC123'.
The TV folk (those who inspired my original post) were all worked up about the government invading their privacy.
There needn't be a back-door: if the encryption is good, the immense computing power required to decrypt the info in anything close to a useful time-frame is enough. There time will be (and IS) better spent hacking into the data repositories (banks, credit cards, IRS). Why kill yourself for a few dimes when theirs millions to be made in a single hit?
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Cortana in Swahili means "Who Cares".
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta tomorrow (noun): a mystical land where 99% of all human productivity, motivation and achievement is stored.
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Cortana is one of the 73 things you need to kill, if you want to regain half the functionality of XP and Win 7 in Win 10.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Micro$oft
Holy crap, it's the 90s again.
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