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If you can manage it, never-ever work with Telerik!!!
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Yeah.
He's too lazy, that bloke - and he never refills the coffee machine when he takes the last cup.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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But if you do and you get stuck, please don't ask questions on Telerik's own forums that are packed with people who know a lot about Telerik 
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The problem that those payed to support you don't know nothing...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Just to rub it in a bit, my experience with DevExpress is quite different. 
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: don't know nothing
Well, I should hope not. If I paid for support and the support technicians did know nothing, I'd be pretty annoyed. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Our shop is in the process of not using Telerik controls anymore. We are looking for something more lightweight and open source.
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Tell me about it. The project I'm working on now has a bunch of Telerik controls being used in ways that are uncharted territory as far as The Great Google is concerned.
We've also found a sh*t-ton of bugs and a couple of things that were badly implemented, like using local storage for storing data for off-line grids instead of using session storage. That was a fun little bug to find that only occurs when you've got multiple tabs going to the same page with different data!
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 We use them extensively, both the Silverlight and now the WPF versions. While they can be difficult sometimes and I dare not try and change their styling they do work well.
We changed from Infragistics who have had an absolutely horrendous object hierarchy.
SO seems to be their main support tool these days but I have had some real nasties resolved by their support team. I do like their habit of supplying a sample program to demonstrate their solutions.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I got it from my father, who got it form his uncle, who got it from his father (not my grandfather)...
Logarléc[^]
(The image is not that of mine, but it's from the very same line...)
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
modified 2-Feb-16 5:37am.
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Argghhh! You beat me by 63 years!
A real family heirloom. Nice!
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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And how many instructions per hour ? 
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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In my best shape I can do 5 per minutes...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Thank you sir, I learnt the very existance of it. This gives me many ideas for D&D adventures...
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
If a coffee bean is between the Earth and the Sun, is it a Java Eclipse? -- Sascha Lefèvre
/xml>
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The evil logarlec laughed "you fools! you can't even begin to comprehend my power!"
You roll two dice and the logarlec overflows.
The end.
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oh I remember, I learned it in the school. 
and it works without a battery. 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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I have one of these[^], it's a pocket calculator. 
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What you do not have one as backup? However, mine is only about 90 years old. I even had a circular one.
Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.
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Of course I have backup...an 8 core 64GB monster sitting on my table in case the slide-rule can't cope with something...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Take an upvote for bringing back fond memories of my college years as an engineering student. We did all calculations on a slide rule. It was in the 60s, just before the first electronic calculators appeared.
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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Can you play Angry Birds on it? 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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No, that's why it's so good!
veni bibi saltavi
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Old school… awesome.
My first term in college we learned to use slide rules. I'm so glad that calculator prices went down after that.
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Right, we can stop this my bloody old thing still works malarkey here and now!
I bought one of these babies[^] when they first came out, it was the bleeding edge dog's! I still have it and use it, if not every day, regularly! It works really well and I even managed to write some logic games for it; saved to dead trees.
The point is that it does what it was designed to do. There was no interweb connectiveness back than and so it doesn't support TCP/IP or any other communication protocol BECAUSE IT DID NOT NEED TO! You can't save anything, except 'copy to paper' and the graph drawing was always good for a laugh. That said, I use it and still love it.
WinTen was a minor jump compared to 8, but it works and it supports all the gizmos we need today and a few that are of about as much use as a BACON sandwich at a bar mitzvah. I could easily switch to Linux whateva, but I really can't be arsed; I've worked in Windows from v1 - now there's a dog even Battersea would put down - through every iteration. I was even forced to use Vista to test our then product and that hurt, but not as much as trying to get ANYTHING running on Windows 1.0!
veni bibi saltavi
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A wonderful piece of kit
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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