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chriselst wrote: I wouldn't ditch 7 for 10.
That's been my general recommendation. Ditch 8.x for 10, but not necessarily 7.
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I am waiting another 6 months, before installing/upgrading.
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If it's only for curiosity and you've got the capability install it on a VM and give it a try first. That way you'll know if you're one of the (very, very) few unlucky ones to have issues.
I went from 7 to 10 via that route with a full upgrade in August and (much to the annoyance of Original Griff and others!) have had not a single problem since.
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I also had a flawless upgrade but it was from 8.1 to 10 so may not be relevant.
The move to Office365 on the other hand has been a complete PITA.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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No.
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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I'm holding out for Windows 11 - from what I hear - it will have a new and improved Edlin.
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Out of curiosity, do it!
It will, at the very least, make your computer faster! 
Other than that, except for the disappearance of the usual start menu icons (replaced by a different start menu which will not have its previous links) it's no big deal..
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I took the leap a couple of weeks ago. Here is IMHO what I think about it:
+ booting is faster
+ shutting down is faster
+ more similar to win7 than to win8
- UI "upgrade", trying to look "hip" whatever that means. They made it look dull (personal taste)... Look up for screenshots first.
- Experimenting with the new and improved "simple" design which leads to the point below.
- The treatment of users as having zero PC knowledge. I need to elaborate here: The phrase 'We are preparing everything for you' is all you can see when installing win10 for almost 30 minutes or so (which hit my nerve). Stuff like the screen resolution is now an advanced setting, etc. This is the direction that you should expect from this new "simple" design. They did not abstract stuff, they just removed them to make it "simple".
- you cannot stop the windows updates (without a tremendous registry related effort). the only thing you can do is to decide whether to let it restart your PC automatically or wait for your decision to restart it. Now as of why you would want to stop, well that's not the point. But in any case, whether you are playing an MMO, or you are in a hotel with limited bandwidth, or simply streaming movies, The user should decide what is the priority of his downloads.
- several privacy stuff that you would automatically give up for a better "user experience" such as your location.
* EDIT *
I didn't want to compare Edge and Firefox...
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I am not sure.
I upgraded in early august and all went really well up until mid november.
Since the "Threshold 2" update all sorts of stuff is going haywire.
Interfacing with drivers is particularly bad: some peripherals no longer work or work erratically.
Other new ones install and work perfectly well under windows 7 but don't under Windows 10 although the driver is reportedly windows 10 compatible ( FTDI CDM drivers ).
I wouldn't be surprised if it was compatible with the "original" windows 10 but not with the new one.
Don't they know at microsoft they shouldn't fix it if it ain't broke ?
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That happened on my laptop too. I booted to recovery, rolled back to the previous Windows 10 build and turned on "defer upgrades" in system settings once everything was up and running again.
Anna ( @annajayne)
Tech Blog | Visual Lint
"Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"
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I have "taken the leap" on two of our PCs here, both Win 7, one 32 bit, the other 64bit.
The 32 bit upgrade went fairly painlessly and everything worked except for the MachineID having changed and forcing re-registration of a couple of bits of software (CfosSpeed and SmartFTP).
The 64 bit is another story, it is on an Asus Z87-Pro with an i7-4770K - so fairly recent hardware. After the various reboots during the upgrade it lost the Ethernet connection and all USB2 ports luckily the USB3 worked so I could get a mouse and keyboard connected. Looking in the device manager the NIC and USB ports were there and 'working' - only they didn't. Re-installing the chipset and NIC drivers from Asus fixed the problem. Same problem as for the 32 bit with needing to re-register the same software.
HOWEVER, it has just gone and upgraded to build 10586 and I had to go through the whole driver and license rigmarole again.
An even bigger HOWEVER is that one of these computers is also my PVR for UK Freesat. I went away for the weekend having set Downton Abbey to record and came back to find a screen saying "Howdy, we've got some delicious updates waiting for a reboot, we reckon 3 am tomorrow would be a good time for this, whad'ya think?" - well I think that it sucks because the message appeared to have halted all other programmes (or at least inhibited the task scheduler from starting new ones) and I didn't get my recording of Downton.
I don't find 10 any faster than 7. I have upgraded a single core Sempron laptop and performance is just the same (once you have waited 2 days for 10 to finish indexing everything again).
I hope that this helps
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I would. Imho, it is just silly to wait. I like it a lot. Has been pretty solid. My only realy complaint is the large lack of basic functionality in many of the new "apps" like mail, for instance. But I just use other mail clients instead.
For me, it is probably worth it for the time saved using Cortana alone. Searching for things such as where to set some setting for something or finding some file I know the name of but can't remember where I put it are big time savers.
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Cortana sure is an awesome feature. However, I'm rather reluctant to open up any information about me, what I do, or what is on my computer to the cloud - and if I stop Cortana from doing that, it is hardly any more advanced a search feature than that already present in Win 7.
I did do AI programming myself in the past, and therefore I do understand why Cortana needs that much data to learn. But at this point I am not (yet) willing to give up my data to a service that may or may not be responsible, secure, and also valiant in defending my privacy against the likes of the NSA.
Maybe Microsoft deserves my trust in this. But if it does, it does an incredibly horrible job to convince me. Hint: aggressive schemes to push W10 on my W7 system through intrusive, unwanted nagging ads does not serve to build trust!
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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Personally, I fail to see the depth of concern. I understand the argument, I just don't care if Cortana needs information or not. And I don't care what Microsoft does with it.
However, I think Cortana's search features are FASTER by a lot on my Win10 box versus previous Win 7. I suspect more stuff is being indexed AND the Win10 box is newer. But it finds more stuff than was found in Win7. And I'm just talking about local things. Not AI networked things.
Like, I know I used a file yesterday and I know what I called it, but I can't remember where I put it. Just type the name in Cortana's window and it QUICKLY finds it.
I am ALL in favor of pushing out stuff instead of people not updating their machines and making themselves and everyone around them more vulnerable because they haven't got the latest security updates.
Look at all the people still running XP with IE6!!
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Win 10 is still in beta state. I wouldn't upgrade from Win 7 just yet, unless you are having system-related problems that would require serious work fixing.
I've upgraded my Win 8 Ultrabook because I really hated W8 - compared to that, in spite of some rough edges, Win 10 is an improvement. That said, the upgrade from Win 8 wasn't clean. I have occasional shutdowns (no warning, no bluescreen - just an instant power down), and experience a few odd quirks. Mary Jo Fowley apparently had the same issues, but in an article she declared they went away after a fresh installation, so that's what I'll try shortly.
My Win 7 desktop works fine, and I'll leave it that way. I'll buy a new one next year, and it will also be Win 7. I't s the most stable OS I ever had besides Win XP (after a couple of service packs) and I really don't see why I should instead use a juvenile OS that endangers my privacy and introduces UI changes that are inherently unhelpful (I hate how in the flat UI design it's impossible to distinguish labels from flat buttons  )
The only things that would make me consider upgrading a Win 7 system to Win 10 is (1) being able to take advantage of DX 12 (if your graphics adapter supports it) and (2) Support for W7 ending (in 2020)
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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I've upgraded several machines and am quite happy this far. No big advances, no big show-stoppers, but you're aware of that. Move forward. Don't be Luddite.
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx
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Anders, I am a late adopter. So consider that.
I am on win 7 and loving it.
We have 2 windows 10 machines here, and feedback from 2 other developers who had to make the plunge:
1) Audio Drivers no longer work, or are crazy flaky, making one guy dial in with a phone on meetings!
2) Edge Browser does not make a multi-line web field sizeable (works in IE, and chrome) (mantis site)
3) Privacy Concerns: The default is that they can record your keystrokes and send them to Redmond
4) The WONDERFUL Windows Key: Add -> Add or Remove Programs. NOT QUITE as nice in Windows 10.
Half the time, it cannot find what I am searching for. Worse, it gives me WEB search results, and
takes me to a web page as a penalty for clicking on it (I did finally disable this)
5) A couple of old stalwart programs started crashing on windows 10.
6) Other hardware issues. (builtin web cam issues)
7) Having weird crap, until a full powerdown and reboot. About 4 times on one computer. I barely
reboot my win 7 machine. Windows 10, we can't keep it for 7 days without it getting flaky.
8) Once MSFT sends you updates in the background, it appears to make #7 worse, It half installs them, and then you need to go through the long reboot/install cycle.
9) On the plus side, my color laser printer was supported out of the box!
So, there is risk. Losing the built in Mic for my meetings would kill me.
If I were to do it, I would clone my system to fresh new disks.
I would do the upgrade on the new disks. And if I hated it, I would revert back by swapping to the other disks. (Admittedly I am on webmail and version control for everything).
YMMV
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My almost 4 years old Alienware laptop became faster after I installed Win 10 over Win 8.1
I liked it very much. Has several goodies that can make your life easier if you know they exist.
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson
Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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I upgraded 3 of my systems from Win 7 to 10, all 3 are 64-bit hardware but one had 32-bit Win 7 Pro installed. I've not experienced any serious issues but have noticed the boot and login times are longer on all three systems than under Win 7.
The one thing I've encountered that I find exasperating is that programs which display a startup splash screen tend to remain hidden behind the window of the program that was active. Consequently I don't always know the program I just launched is already running so I try to start another instance.
On a positive note some programs I thought would be an issue just work. One in particular is Fender Fuse which is a program that is used to configure a Fender guitar amp via a USB connection. I've had no problems with it even though it was a bit finicky under Win 7 and relies on Silverlight.
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I've upgraded a couple of PCs (one W7, one W8.1) and assisted in helping out non-techies with obscure problems (all W7s with loads of malware) and have to say that upgrading was fairly painless. I wouldn't go back to W7 - it did not take long (maybe an hour) to get reasonably comfortable.
I get good response times and faster booting / closing down, but that may be because my W7 was a clean (not OEM) build and I migrated to an SSD as part of the transition.
Watch the time for making the go / no-go decision. You have a month to decide whether to revert back to W7 / W8.x. I did not use the option and there seems to not be an approved way to remove the backout to W7 files (nearly 6GB) after the month is up. I am considering deleting the $Windows.~WS file and hoping as none of the things that I have searched on the web give techniques that seem applicable for removing W7 backout option after the month finishes.
As you will have seen, some other respondents have had difficulties and regret moving, others ahev found it easy and worthwhile. So, no-one can really tell you what to do. All that I will say is ... BACKUP YOUR OLD SYSTEM FIRST.
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Song of the Week[^]
It's not new or the best song ever or anything, but a friend of mine let me listen to it last weekend and I've been dancing to it all week while making breakfast, cooking, cleaning and working 
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To all the Donald supporters, enjoy your anthem[^]
it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! The Swedish Eurodance Rednex (that's waaaay to multi-cultural for Trump!)
Loved that song since the 90's
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Hello -
can someone tell me how "CustomDialog" works with MahApp?
I can't find something what works for me.. for example this[^]?
Thanks
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