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As long as the check doesn't bounce, they can call me whatever they want.
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How about Mr Mackem? 
veni bibi saltavi
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That needs a cheque with more zeroes before the decimal.
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Like this $0000001.00? 
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: check
You Bloody Yank.
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Stupid phone. I typed in cheque.
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..the problem is that peoples' ideas (and hence actions) are based on abstract things like words. First you call them a dumb f***, next you'll treat them as one. Repeating the name has a NLP-like effect.
And no, they can't call you what they want; one might break the law in doing so.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: Do you really care what someone else calls you?
Are you suggesting it's ok to use degrading names as long as the target gets paid?
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I'd say if someone hands me 20k a month for calling me a douche... why not? It's all about the money isn't it?
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HobbyProggy wrote: It's all about the money isn't it?
That's what she said.
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Thank god were a in the Lounge 
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No, I'm suggesting that it's not important to care what someone else calls you. If your sense of self-worth is invested purely in what someone else thinks of you or calls you, you need to reevaluate your priorities in life.
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So let me ask you another question then.
Do you believe it's ok to use degrading names as long as the target gets paid?
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The point here is that in terms of your career it does matter whether you are respected. Otherwise you won't progress. Unless you are genuinely happy to stasy as a code monkey forever in which case it is all cool...
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As with many terms, context is important.
A number of years back, I was sitting at lunch with a couple of co-workers.
One noted he was on vacation the following week, as said, "Lucky bastard, I wish I had vacation time."
In context, the term was simply a phrase - no insult intended.
However, for years afterward, I was subjected to muttered insults because he perceived me as questioning whether his parents were married or not when he was born. If he had questioned me at the time, I would have apologized if he was insulted.
Instead, he waited for years until the witness to the conversation was leaving the company, and then he complained to my manager because he was about to lose the only witness. When confronted by my manager, I repeated the conversation and noted that, in context, no insult was intended.
So? Is code monkey a degrading term? Depends on how it was used... much the same way as mechanics are often called grease monkeys.
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Spot on. 
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You're right, you effing bastard!
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: as long as the target gets paid?
Well, that's a pretty good start.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: Do you really care what someone else calls you?
depends on how insulting it is..
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I've had some very insulting names in my time - they don't affect who I am so why should I care about them?
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: Do you really care what someone else calls you?
As many others stated, context (and tone) are important.
If a manager would constantly call me code monkey I'd loose my respect towards him and in consequence question his quality as a manager (which in the end leads to me looking for a better job).
If a friend 'd call me a code monkey I wouldn't really care.
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Ygnaiih wrote: Has anyone here ever been called Code Monkey?
Never; if you cannot treat your coworkers as humans, you'll be out on the street with the rest of the dogs in a very short time.
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Ygnaiih wrote: At my shop I have been called a "Worker Bee".
Presumably by a drone or a larva ?
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Ygnaiih wrote: Developers are not respected where I work either.
Depends on who is calling you code monkey, but most of the time I've heard it, it is not in disrespect but more in terms of having to do brain-dead code changes. For example, in the web I often have to pixel-push, tweak the location of controls just a few pixels to make things look nicer. Code Monkey is a similar term. Code changes that could be done by a monkey because they are tedious and /or easy. However, hopefully not all the work you do is that way.
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