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Super Lloyd wrote: how does one (Webmaster) contains an online forum toxicity?
With the standard techniques: water-boarding, electro-shock to sensitive areas, sleep/sensory deprivation, use of extreme heat, cold, continual loud unpredictable noises.
Of course, you also want to immediately excommunicate any member who writes about problems on your forum on any other forum.
The trick is to culture the right kind of trolls on your forum, the kind will do your dirty work for you, while you appear magisterially "above the fray."
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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such good techniques! Hahah!   
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We really bad guys are relegated to the Backroom or some such place....
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yeah, the soapbox might be another solution!
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They even have their own song 
http://www.calonsong.org/CalontirSongs/hamstersong.htm[^]
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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The first step is to not host a gaming forum. That way you wont appeal to the younger crowds.
The problem with gaming is that people who are good (plows endless hours in to something that in most cases is a waste of time) feel entitled to be assholes. By flaming others about how they do this and that wrong or how noobish they are they can feel like their non-accomplishments are worth something. This is what I believe in large parts.
A place like here on code project got a different crowd. Mostly problem solvers who realize that there isn't a set way to do something and if someone puts forward a different way of doing things I think most people here are interested in the ins and outs to see if there is something to learn.
I think it's important how you cultivate the climate on a web community, especially early on. Not just striking down on those that misbehaves but rather encourage those that behave well.
But mostly the type of community will be the biggest factor.
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Sometimes I wonder just what it is that makes CodeProject my favorite place. Everything seems so well organized and thought out. The best full-fledged examples can be found on CodeProject. The forum posters either seem to be well educated and competent programmers, or genuinely interested in being mentored by the others. And they are all so polite, I suspect that many of them are Canadian. Is it the type font? Or maybe the orange and white color scheme? The only problem I have with CodeProject is that it seems to be biased towards Microsoft solutions. If I want non-Microsoft solutions, I don't yet know of one place that has it all so well presented as in CodeProject. If someone knows of such a place, please let me know. GitHub and StackExchange are my favorite go-to places for that, but they still don't seem to have it all together as does CodeProject. (BTW, I am hoping to at least get a cookie from this "rant".)
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Well just get into a real Game Newb, you belong there if you are also playing that newbZ Game.
All tehre a flaming NewbZ just like you, so go Newb yourself.
I think most ppl dont understand the value of a game and complain to much about whats stupid then talk about whats great
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People tend to take it to seriously in a lot of cases. I remember when I was 15 and played World of Warcraft... Not my finest days. If my parents asked me to do something at the wrong time I told them it's an online game, you cant pause. Etc.. But it did help develop my English skills at least.
Now I'm way more casual in my gaming. But my wife is an avid MMO player and tend to get worked up at people who suck when trying to cooperate or when something disturbers her. And I just tell her it's her fault because she plans her sessions wrong. That's not very popular. 
But it's easy to get worked up in games, especially team oriented or when it's competitive. but nowadays I've changed my opinion and put myself at fault if I get worked up for something disturbs me irl.
My finest hour must have been when playing CS:GO competitively in the last rounds of the match with a few friends and had my then 2 year old in the lap. Lets say that there was a certain warmth spreading over my thighs. But we won and that's what counts right?
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You got older yeah
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Yeah but there is another aspect to this.
If someone wants to progress at a game and has a job - so play time is reduced to about two hours per day or less(if you have kids maybe you only play on weekends). You realize you won't get far and can play casually. But when someone makes such stupid mistakes, that hold back the whole group(a lot of that with WoW) and you only have two or three chances to get it right and then you have to go, that gets frustrating. I mean, I wouldn't go into full rage mode, but I wouldn't like playing with that person unless they get informed about what to do. For example: If I brought my Voidlord pet into a raid - that is a mistake for which you give a warning or two and then if the player doesn't fix it - kick from raid. If it's a guild raid - that's another story 
I'm not defending toxic forums, but I understand people getting enraged about it.
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Yeah, I can understand that sadly I've had to take the route where I got to priorities what games I play. I'd love to play and raid with my wife but I cant muster the will to mindlessly level anymore, even if raiding and instancing can be fun all the time sinks and "obligations" that goes with it makes it impossible for me.
But I can squeeze in a few rounds of world of warships every now and then and even thou there are a lot of bad players it's not so bad because a games max time is 20min I thin k and you can always leave when you are dead and go with another ship.
What I also like with ships is that after a few tiers there are a higher likelihood of a good game because most people tend to learn how to play their class by then.
I was and still am to some points against the easyfication of wow, I played in the early days when there was maybe 1 or 2 guilds that could do all the instances and where it felt like an accomplishment when your guild managed to defeat harder and harder bosses but today I realize that it allows more people to enjoy the content. Nostalgia is a bitch.
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Member 11683251 wrote: My finest hour must have been when playing CS:GO competitively in the last rounds of the match with a few friends and had my then 2 year old in the lap. Lets say that there was a certain warmth spreading over my thighs. But we won and that's what counts right?
Yeah man! That's the spirit!
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But did your young one notice your relief?
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Super Lloyd wrote: are quite civil
For people to be civil, someone has to be military
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Super Lloyd wrote: how does one (Webmaster) contains an online forum toxicity?!
Don't allow this[^]? (Oops!)
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I think it's because 5 million kids go to the forums when they get frustrated by some game feature. There is no other real reason for them to be on the forums and not in game.
Code project has entirely different motivation.
it ain’t broke, it doesn’t have enough features yet.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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We go to the forum when we get frustrated by some compiler feature?
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If it gets that toxic then I'm afraid the nuclear option is the only option. There's no saving that forum.
Not all gaming forums are like that though. I frequent the DayZ forum hosted by the developer Bohemia Interactive and really it is quite civil there. The bad apples are quickly removed and people generally respect one another. Maybe there are some lessons to be gleaned from there. Part of it may be that the forum-frequenters are tend to now, like here where everyone is so mature
Of course right now the game is languishing in lack-of-release hell, and everyone is unhappy about the current state of development, but at least they are civil about it
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On environments like this I would moderate on a warning basis.
For example, since it's a paid service, you can warn those as you would need to pay in order to create other accounts.
First:
You get to have three warnings before you get suspended for one week of the forums. Warnings and suspension history should be publicly visible, like a badge.
At every suspension the warnings are reset, and the next suspension is for one month and so on...
For every suspension you get a ranked badge. This badge can be lowered for not being awarded any warnings for some period of time.
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson
Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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In two weeks I'd have a math test. I paid dearly for it and if I don't pass the test I'll pay dearly again.
And I'm hating math so much that I don't even care about the money anymore... I'm just not doing any more math and I'm certainly not doing the test! 
I don't think I have to know math to be a good (or even great) developer.
I do need to know math to get my degree though, so I've decided to do things a little different from what I've been doing...
To like and understand math I'm going to blog about it.
That's right, I'm going to face math, look it in the uhhh... pi, and write it down for myself and others.
And by doing so I hope I'll start liking it as I have the freedom to figure it all out at my own pace and write about the things I like about it.
And then maybe I can have another look at that math test in a year or so.
I'm a bit concerned about LaTeX though (never used it before).
WordPress does have out of the box LaTeX support, but does anyone know a good and free LaTeX editor plugin?
I'm not looking forward to looking up all those character codes to write a single formula... 
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What is a LaTeX editor plugin supposed to do anyway? It's typically just edited as plaintext, maybe some syntax highlighting if you want to be fancy..
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harold aptroot wrote: What is a LaTeX editor plugin supposed to do anyway? It's typically just edited as plaintext
Maybe make it so that I don't have to edit it as plain text?
Kind of like an HTML editor, so you don't have to type your own markup?
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