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Hello out there,
I do hope this is the right to place this question, if not sorry. I have been in IT for over 20 years now and am sick to death of being a server administrator. So I have been programming on and off for years (nothing serious at all, just for fun) but now I want to do something different.
I have been taking courses on some languages, PHP, C#, .NET MVC and have made the Hello World program (oh boy), some MySQL access with C# and PHP, but I need to step it up a bit. Does anyone know of where there may be a group of programmers that are working on some project just for the sake of making it that might let a noob in to do some base level coding?
I’m not looking for a job, just some coding in a project environment.
Thanks
Phaser11
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Phaser11 wrote: Does anyone know of where there may be a group of programmers that are working on some project just for the sake of making it that might let a noob in to do some base level coding?
There's a gazillion open source projects on GitHub (including a few of mine, haha) and I'm sure some would be willing to do some mentoring.
As mundane as it sounds, one thing you might offer is to help document/comment someone else's code -- it's a great way to learn things, and it contributes to the project.
Speaking for myself, I can always use help on my projects ()[^] the most recent of which is a neuron simulator project[^] that I'll be posting here on CP once I clean up the code. Hint: "clean up the code."
If you're interested, email me directly, as I quite enjoy mentoring.
Marc
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If your experience is that limited, it might be worth putting off trying to join an existing project, simply because it's unlikely any of your code will make the "final cut" - novice code tends to be...um...rather poor quality, and most projects aren't started to provide beginner training! 
And it's demoralizing to see code you slaved over ripped out and replaced with a two line method...
So I'd suggest that you pick one language, one environment and try to build up your experience there. I'd suggest that you install SQL Server Express on your PC and try building a couple of "bigger than homework" C# projects on it: A music library for your MP3's that plays them from within the library app for example, or a bug reporting and tracking system. Both of those are quite a bit more work than they seem, and they provide a stable project that you can use and decide you hate and need to rewrite six months later!
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I think this is good advice, two of my first projects were an MP3 player/library manager allowing me to update all the id3 tags en-masse and a film library catalogue that scanned the films in a directory on my PC and displayed the IMDB information alongside them.
Both of these had a practical use as well as just to learn coding.
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 I'm still using mine...
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Thank you guys so much for the input. One said I should pick one an go with that. How in the world do you choose which one to use? Man I am really new at this. Where I can go to a town, install a internet provider, but I'm not sure how to choose what language to use. I'm 57 fricked years old!
Phaser11
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Well, you've got C# and PHP, so I'd pick one of those - and I'm biased because I know C#, and think PHP looks a bit like Sinclair ZX Spectrum Basic without the line numbers!
Seriously, if you are trying to get solid experience, then anything which uses Visual Studio (because it's both free and the best IDE in the world, probably) is going to make it easier. Did you do a course, or follow any books in particular?
And 57 isn't that old - it only makes you a year older than me, and I'm still learning!
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OriginalGriff wrote: And it's demoralizing to see code you slaved over ripped out and replaced with a two line method...
Honestly, I like it when that happens, then I know what I could have done better, and it's easier to see the thought process that they could have went through to get that concise of a method. I do see where you are coming from though, I've done that more than my fair share to others, but sometimes you just gotta do it.
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Good grief but the whole site is quiet today!
Where is everybody?
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They're waiting for your JOTD.
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Well i also miss the FOSW here,today is a quiet day on the interweebs
Rules for the FOSW ![ ^]
if(this.signature != "")
{
MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}
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I wish I were out on a field, recording some videos of unsuspecting cows from up in the air.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Well, better that than recording flying cows from underneath!
But can't you think of anywhere more interesting to fly over and record than a field full of bovines?
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That's just for practice and getting the camera to work. Last sunday I got my first results. The camera is too cheap, the quality of the videos is just as cheap and I do still have some vibrations, causing s fuzzy or 'swimming' effect.
Now I'm going to train flying in a fashion that produces more footage worth looking at and the poor cows will have to do as models, just like some local features of the landscape. Some time next year I intend to go south into the mountains and then try to get some videos worth posting, probably with a camera on board that costs more than 25 bucks. Still, the cheap thingie is good enough for practicing.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: Still, the cheap thingie is good enough for practicing.
Particularly as practicing is where you are most likely to break it!
(Hope you don't though)
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The camera is cheap, not the helicopter. My T-Rex 550[^] may be old and not be the latest model, but it's in perfect shape and really a pleasure to fly with. I not even once had a critical moment with it, but one day something will fail and it will crash. If you are afraid of that moment, then don't go flying.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Friday for me is like a hangover - without the preceding fun.
Apathy and cynism mixed with hopefulness and fretting. Wuith the bitter taste of the known brief duration of the week-end. You can call me Marvin.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
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Do you need some ointment for all the diodes down your right hand side?
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Ointment. Hah. As it would do anything... 
BTW my desk is full of (mostly alien I think) electronical and electromechanical parts, so
OriginalGriff wrote: Do you need some ointment for all the diodes down your right hand side?
actually make sense... 
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
"When you have eliminated the JavaScript, whatever remains must be an empty page." -- Mike Hankey
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Didn't you get the memo? It's POETS day!
veni bibi saltavi
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Post Often Else Today's Stultifying?
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What a poet! 
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As long it's after breakfast [or if it's during breakfast a light Champagne Cocktail is okay] it is not too soon. However having a sneaky one before the school run could be called as too soon. Tonight is pizza night, and Mummy and Daddy will be having Grown Up Ribena before during and after dinner.
veni bibi saltavi
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