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My biggest problem is using a MS account for my computer login; Not going to happen ever. Transmitting the login password across the internet is a Darwinian security flaw. The Man-in-the-Middle sees everything plain text (private key required). Running under a local account breaks everything I was excited about: Cortana, the App Store, Groove, Xbox. They get Kudos for IE11 still being there, demanding IE to be part of the OS was one of Microsoft's greatest mistakes in the browser war. Edge is not ready (meant?) for the desktop. It's strictly a touch based browser for people with really fat fingers (check out that right click menu). Edge security settings are non-existent compared to IE11. I now know why Win10 was free. The only perk I get coming from Win7 is being able to compile Windows Phone apps, but after looking at C++/CX I don't see that happening either. I'm not willing to put a lot of effort into supporting a sandboxed architecture (COM sucks). The rollback to Win7 countdown has started.
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How about
- Edge is weirdly unstable. Can't quite figure out what's broken, because I switched back to Firefox on the first day, simply because I needed to be productive.
- Network subsystem is unstable. For several days after installation, my wired network connection would stop being able to hear the internet after about 30 minutes. I know my connection was live because I could see the local net and also beause I could connect wirelessly and get the internet, for another 30 minutes. A subsequent patch partially fixed the problem, so that now it only occasionally can't find the internet.
This was on a six-month-old Surface Pro 3, so you'd think they would have tested on this device. Win 8.1 and other apps have been rock-solid, so I don't suspect a hardware problem.
I like the look of Windows 10. I want to like it. But I very nearly reverted. Way too buggy. If Microsoft's strategy is to shortchange testing on O/S releases, people better sell their stock. Oy!
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Win10 is just a Trojan in your panties. Said enough.
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The lack of respect for users' privacy and the data-mining model has already put me off. Ditto for Google. Looks like I will be switching to Mac.
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Because Apple is better?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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By all accounts Apple gathers less data. They also have an official stance of not following the data-mining / targeted adds model of their rivals. If I discover otherwise then I will simply avoid Apple too. It really is that simple. Microsoft are out of order and their behavior is totally unacceptable. Ditto for Google.
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Just for curiosity's sake: do you have a credit card and/or are you a member of a rewards program (eg Air Miles, credit card reward program etc)?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Rather than putting it as a comment, wrote a blog about it - Blog[^]
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Your experience is similar to mine. I made it through in one go, but it took close to five hours to complete. The only negatives were that my onboard sound was disabled afterward, and my VPN software for work no longer functions.
Software Zen: delete this;
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My experience installing Windows 10 last Friday...
1) Sit down at my desktop...
2) Check something on my Laptop... Hey, it's ready to upgrade! Click the button.
3) Play some Dota2...
4) Glance at the laptop... 3% done
5) Continue playing...
6) Glance at the laptop... 35% done
7) Play more
8) Glance at the laptop... 60% done... And now rebooting
9) Hmm, still going? Ok, another round...
10) Glance at the laptop... Done!
11) Finish my game
12) Click through a few setup pages
13) Turn off all of the annoying bits where Microsoft wants to collect more data than even Google does
14) Try to get Edge to use Google instead of Bing... Realize it's too much of a hassle, and switch back to Chrome.
15) Mess with Cortana for a while... Decide it's really not worth using
16) Close laptop and go back to gaming on my Win7 desktop.
There. A nice, simple, 16-step process...
Went pretty smoothly... And Win10 is nice so far, but not really that shiny or amazing. Granted, the laptop was already running 8.1, so not a huge change.
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Ian Shlasko wrote: Try to get Edge to use Google instead of Bing...
It's not completely obvious, but this should do it:
- Open Google in Edge;
- Click the "..." button, and select "Settings";
- Scroll to the bottom and click "View advanced settings";
- Scroll down to "Search the address bar with", and select "<Add new>" in the list;
- Under "Choose one", click the entry for Google, and the click "Add as default";
- Close the settings side-bar;
It took me a while to realise that you had to visit the search engine in Edge before it would appear in the "Choose one" list.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Richard Deeming wrote: It took me a while to realise that you had to visit the search engine in Edge before it would appear in the "Choose one" list. Ahhhhh... That's why it wasn't listed... Ok, might try that. Thanks.
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It's a very slow, very annoying process.
I'm still doing extra overnight disk images every night while I wait for the notification to go "Ready to install".
Sigh.
But...since I hear some people have lost networking, apps, and data in the upgrade, I want to wait until I get the "officially ready for you" version rather than download the ISO myself.
Mind you, Win7 is still running fine, so I don't need the upgrade anytime too soon...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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If you are still waiting for the ready message you may be facing the same issues as me. Have a look at your Windows update history for messages such as
Upgrade to Windows 10 Home Failed
Of course, why it failed is a total mystery. I downloaded the .ISO to do it manually. As mentioned before, my wife's 8.1 system upgraded itself in no time and without problems.
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I had 3 'Upgrade to Windows 10 Home ... Failed' entries. Searching the internet eventually gave the answer that this message is misleading. It means that that the upgrade had tried to run without you getting the notification first and the resolution was to wait and wait and wait until a notification came. My notification arrived a week later and ran successfully. Unfortunately, once it came, I could not do a backup first (but my previous backup was done as close as possible to the official release day so was only one week old). Perhaps I was fortunate or perhaps I was one of the silent majority, but W10 loaded OK (including drivers for a disconnected printer) and works straight out of the box.
My set up is slightly unusual as I had set W7 to autologon (no username / password prompt) so I was a bit worried that it would give me a password and not tell me what it was or would fail to install because that was no longer permitted. In fact, it works - even on W10 it autologs on. Even better, it now allows me to join in the homegroup with another W8 laptop in the local domain. W7 had refused to let me join the homegroup because not having a password meant I was a security risk.
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Was Socrates' busiest student the one with a lot on his Plato?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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No, that was his HUNGRIEST student!
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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Your suck rate just went up.
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You are occamsionally right, however, this time I am afreud you are wrong.
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Always a chuckle. Brilliant - love to know where you are stealing these from...
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I tried to come up with something clever, but I Kant.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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I Xeno evidence to the contrary!
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I think this is very important. I'm fine with them not knowing everything. I don't know everything. However, you have to know how to troubleshoot (Google/StackOverflow/CodeProject - etc.) and find your own answers. That is key for a developer/engineer these days, IMHO.
I know Google is very big on this in their interview process (solving problems and troubleshooting).
Edit: I know this is a Leslie topic, but hell, enough is enough!
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