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newton.saber wrote: Yep, I said it out loud. I like Windows 8.1.
Same here, so at least you know you're not alone.
Jeremy Falcon
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Windows 10 is more "Windows 8.3" 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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KarstenK wrote: more "Windows 8.3"
I agree. And one of the worst things a software company can do is update people into software that they do not like.
"Here's our latest...you're going to hate it!", Sincerely MicrosoftBorg 
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Newton,
I am of the exact same opinion. It's not that there's patently anything wrong with Windows 10, I played with the preview for quite awhile. The reason I don't move is the same as yours, the fact that there just isn't anything in the product that compels me to perform an upgrade which could potentially break my systems. I haven't found even ONE feature that stands out and says to me "this will assist in your work" or "this will fix ---- problem". To me, at the present time, it would be nothing but "playing" with the configuration of a well running system. Seriously. Same thing with all my other machines running 7. As for the intrusion part? Yeah, that's a concern too, but mainly it's the "it ain't broke, why fix it?" thinking that stopped me.
-CM
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Great summary of the entire situation. 100% agree.
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After I got everything I used on the desktop, except Kendal, what was left was an imitation of 7 on an 8.1 machine without the start button. There was a lot less hacking around to get Windows 10 to do what I want. A pro would not have any trouble adapting to 10. My friend Sam will take lots of hand holding when he loses his Win 7 machine.
In short 10's start button makes the operating system way easier.
Yes who ever called me a loser for not loving Rust I'm sure you won't love this either.
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I guess it really depends upon the features you want to use. Almost all the changes from 8.1 to 10 are totally useless to me so the only reason I did the update was because it was free. Here's the 4 main 'features' that I turned off/disabled on Windows 10.
1) New Start Menu. I don't like the implementation. I always organize my start menu and that's not really feasible with the Windows 10 Start Menu (no hierarchy). Also, there's a fairly low hard limit on how many items you can have on the Windows 10 Start Menu. I'll just stick with Classic Shell.
2) Cortana. I have no interest in talking to my computer and I've never had the best results with Bing search. I also don't want a search on my local machine to also search the web. You can disable it (and I did).
3) Privacy! In Windows 10, the default is to opt in to sharing on almost everything. If you like your privacy, you've got a lot of options to change.
4) Virtual Desktops. Hm, I've got them on my linux box but never use them so I doubt I'll be using them on my Windows 10 box. I basically hide the 'task view button' to regain real state on the task bar.
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A great summary of what is out there on Win10.
Yep, I don't care about any of it. I'm running a Win7 VM and I had uninstalled the GWX (get windows 10) installation update. Mysteriously, it is now back and running and it runs again every time I restart the VM even though it tells me my video card wont' upgrad to win 10 anyway.
Total debacle!!
And there's no Ballmer to blame any more. 
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I find it interesting that all the talk is on the UI changes. Nothing about how MS is trying to make the OS a service and the collection of our data. Yes you can talk about Facebook and Google and how they already do it. That does not make it right. I personally do not use Facebook it escapes me why I would want to put my dirty laundry out for all to see. Google I do use but limited I sure do not use Gmail and I sure will not do any banking on a Google OS.
Buckrogerz
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Recent reports about user privacy violations on Windows 10 disturb me. I don't like what Google and MS are doing with user data and I don't like their attempts to own a user's internet experience. It's wrong. This reminds me of the two-way screens of 1984. More and more these big IT companies creep me out, seriously. I have plans to make absolutely minimum use of their services and products.
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that's the craziest f***ing thing i ever heard.
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So you feel good, I use Windows 8.1 at home and aside from a few quirks, prefer it over Windows 7. I'd upgrade my Windows 7 work computer to Windows 10, but it's a laptop, which are notorious for not having drivers for all the little things, like the touch pad.
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I much prefer Shutdown/Restart/Logoff in Win10
I like the Option of windowed WinRT Apps in Win10
I really like the Quick Access files instead of Favorites of Win10
I like to prospect of Future Sandboxed desktop software from the store that will come with Win10
I like Cortana
I like the Edge Browser.
I like distributed Windows Updates so all my computers get updates faster sharing from my LAN
That's a few reasons I upgraded to Win10
I don't like One Drive as much in Win10 but that is the only thing not better.
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Thanks for sharing. Great list of features for me to check out.
Glad to hear someone with some positive news.
Don't tell, but I'm a Microsoft fan. Their dev world has always been the best.
sigh, I'll probably get flamed for this. 
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I don't see what prevent you to upgrade?!
Win10 is very much the same the Win8 except:
- performance is even better
- Windows Store App works seamless as desktop App now (if you like)
- (if you like): use tablet mode: everything is fullscreen again!
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That's all good news. Someone else was telling me the same thing.
I will upgrade. I'm just not usually an early adopter, because I like others to feel the pain first.
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Well I have to say that Edge is buggy..
Even though I still use it as my default browser, it starts up so quickly!!
But problem I had so far:
- occasional crash (particularly if I try to drag a tab on a new window)
- I have trouble having more than 3 window (see above)
- a few other tab issues
for the record IE11 is still there, I even pinned it on the taskbar, don't feel like using it...
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I have a naive statistics app developed in Delphi 7. It does a lot of memory allocations and file readings during the startup. It starts faster on W10+HDD than on W7+SSD.
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That that is a very interesting tidbit.
Old app runninng on new OS and doing well.
Glad to hear of the success.
Thanks for the info.
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Nothing really. For someone comfortable with the level of intrusion in Win 8, Win 10 won't bring you too much extra joy or sorrow. I personally am fine in Win 7, without the useless store, tiles, metro apps and whatnot from Win 8, but that's just me.
Being a free upgrade, people will migrate without thinking, and us developers will have to satisfy their needs for apps. More work for us! Yupeeeeee!
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Yes, that is the most difficult part of the whole thing -- more OSes mean more branching support required.
It's a crazy fragmented world out there. And Microsoft keeps on fragmenting.
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I'm still running Windows XP on my PC. I do use newer systems on client computers, but I am reluctant to upgrade at all. Why? First of all, I like Office 2003, especially as I am so comfortable drawing complex diagrams with it and I find getting used to newer Office versions a bit awkward, especially with those infuriating Ribbons of Death. Also, every time I go to PC World the reps put me off buying a PC by trying to convince me to add on so much stuff I don't need, or by trying to flog me a pre-built PC that doesn't ideally meet my specifications. I just keep walking away empty-handed. Bonus: I can watch more Youtube videos than most users of more modern (i.e. more censored) systems. Problem: I can't run much in the way of VS software, but then the free versions were a bit deficient anyway, which has added momentum to my move to Java, though I can't use Netbeans 8. Additional problem: Windows put me off with all that Metro rubbish and its clunky 'touchscreen' icons - I want a PC OS not some hybrid. I will upgrade eventually, but I am reluctant.
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I think the information you've provided is great.
That's the trouble with upgrades -- the world says everyone wants them and __must__ have them, but the truth is, if the tools you have are doing the trick, it is ridiculous to upgrade.
One the VSTudio thing, have you tried SharpDev Studio? It is free and super cool alternative to VStudio and supports the .NET frameworks. Check it out at:
http://www.icsharpcode.net/opensource/sd/[^]
It's opensource too so you can even examine the code it was built with. Really cool.
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While reading an article last night about fathers and sons, memories came
flooding back to the time I took me son out for his first pint.
Off we went to our local pub only two blocks from the cottage.
I got him a Guinness. He didn't like it------so I drank it.
Then I got him a Kilkenny’s; he didn't like that either------so I drank it.
Finally, I thought he might like some Harp Lager? He didn’t-------I drank it.
I thought maybe he'd like whiskey better than beer so we tried a Jameson’s. Nope!
In desperation, I had him try that rare Redbreast, Ireland's finest. He
wouldn't even smell it.
What could I do but drink it?!
By the time I realized he just didn't like to drink, I was so drunk, I could hardly push his stroller back home.
I'll get my coat. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha
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You should've known he was into a white russian (Hold the vodka and liqueur), natural of course! 
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