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No need to remind me. It's just that recently work seems to keep recurringly interfering with my CP responsibilities.
Clue has been posted!
Cheers! 
"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"
Ron White, Comedian
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Work? Using valuable CP time?
Heretic! 
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OriginalGriff wrote: Work? Using valuable CP time?
If only I had something else instead of work to pay the rent and my bills.
"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"
Ron White, Comedian
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Then it is spam.
I mean, how hard could it be? Just provide a link already. And don't bleeding make me log in to unsubscribe from crap that I didn't sign up for in the first place. Many of the offenders are seemingly well known companies too. And it really pisses me off when unchecking everything doesn't make the mail stop.
There, now I feel much better. 
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Disclaimer: This is a general rant, not targeting CP's newsletters.
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Thank block the sender...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Better block the sender. The unsubscribe link is the best way to confirm that your email address is actually a real address with someone reading it : you click on unsubscribe, the site flags your email as "valid", and you are up for even more spam.
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I've already got a spam filter. Its the legitimate sites (that I've really created accounts on) that I'm talking about.
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My wife had a problem with a site like this, once. She joined a teacher's organization and she kept getting all sorts of offers from them. In this case, unsubscribe didn't work.
I solved the problem by using an SMTP app I wrote for such a purpose: it sends as many copies of an email as I wish, and very quickly. My message was as follows:
"I told you to unsubscribe me from your offers. If 100 requests isn't enough I can send a lot more.".
They sent a reply wherein they indicated their feelings were hurt - but they got the message and the email stopped.
It also has the ability to spoof return addresses, randomly generate them, slightly modify the title and content, etc., when one is of a mind to dole out punishment. You can always get an email from the WhoIs site of someone who can get their attention once you get theirs.
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I only sent you one video of kittens. Geez, lighten up already. I get the message now.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I don't trust _unsubscribe_ links.
It feels like phishing to me. Don't trust them at all.
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I wrote a quick email app that went something like this:
string address = "spammer@yourserver.com";
string subject = "REMOVE ME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST";
string body = "Every time I get an unsolicited email from you, I will send you 100,000 respones. Have a nice day";
MailClass mailClass = new MailClass();
for(int x = 0; x < 100000; x++)
{
mailClass.SenMail(address, subject, body);
Thread.Sleep(5000);
}
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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I always mark them as spam.
The last several months have been really bad for my Yahoo account (yeah, I know... Yahoo). My friend is having the same problem. I think I signed up for some legit site where some jerk stole my email and sold it to a bunch of spammers. I probably get the same amount of spam in my Gmail account, but it's smart enough to nuke them for me.
Cheers,
विक्रम
"We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread 
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we as a software developer get more chance to work with global customers as compare to other industry, different native language may be a problem sometimes for better communication but is it okay to reject some talented person just because he/she is not good with other languages? he/she is strong in doing what he is assign to do but with less good communication skills.
According to you how much weightage should be given to such soft skills in overall development of a candidate?
Ravi Khoda
Humanity is the best religion and smile is the best medicine.
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Depends on the company, depends on the country.
In the UK, it's uncommon for employees to speak anything other than English (Welsh and other regional languages like Geordie and Yorkshire excepted) so it's not a requirement.
In other countries like Switzerland, multilingualism is the norm, and a good command of English, German (or more likely Switzerdeutsch), and probably French is pretty much expected.
If a role requires talking to people in a language - perhaps a close working relationship with a Japanese or Chinese company - then a good command of that language would only be a benefit.
But for most software developers, the regional language is sufficient, though a good command of English can help a lot with the documentation! 
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OriginalGriff wrote: In other countries like Switzerland, multilingualism is the norm, and a good command of English, German (or more likely Switzerdeutsch), and probably French is pretty much expected.
Don't expect any swiss guy to speak fluent english. Usually they have a strong Accent and a small amount of words known to them.
We got different Areas with different native languages spoken (mainly German/Swiss German, French and Italian [not counting in the Balkan languages you hear, depending on the neighbourhood).
Don't expect me to speak French. Don't expect me to speak Italian. I speak german or english.
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Most of the Swiss I've met have been in / around Geneva, so the presence of CERN may well have skewed my impression towards a higher percentage of English speakers.
(No, I never worked there - but I had a girlfriend who did.)
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This[^] is an article in HBR, where the author is quite picky about correct English grammar.
IMHO, this is somewhat unwarranted. With English not necessarily taught with same rigour/exactness all around, I feel it is OK to relax this grammatical picky-ness, and look for brevity, succinctness and clarity of articulation instead.
I know you'll find grammatical mistakes in my above message
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Avijnata wrote: this is somewhat unwarranted
On the contrary, for a company that makes its money from producing written documentation, it's important to get both grammar and spelling correct. It's not too much to expect people to produce documentation that means what it says.
On the contrary, for a company that makes its money from producing written documentation, its important two get both grammer and spelling correct. Its not to much too expect people two produce documentation that means what it says.
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Agree. Technical documentation, perhaps needs Master's degree holders in the English language, and grammatical errors are unpardonable.
However, there are many other jobs, and that is the reason for my usage "somewhat unwarranted", and not "unwarranted".
Small example. In India, the grammatically incorrect usage: "We can able to do this ..." is quite common; what is meant is "We are able to do this ...". Rejecting employment for such reasons is somewhat unwarranted.
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For someone who is such a stickler for attention he didn't pay much attention to his url, did he?  
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That was what I too noticed
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I'm sure that everybody will agree that language IS important when it comes to coding a front end/GUI. No client wants an English GUI full of grammatical errors and spelling mistakes.
And English is the EASY scenario here, because most people in software development do know some degree of English. That is a must, because if you don't, you won't understand most of the documentation. The hard part comes when a foreign company has to do a GUI in a language that they don't know at all...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
modified 4-Aug-15 2:36am.
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Language is hugely important. If you are running a C++ project will a Ruby dev be just as good?
So the same applies to spoken langauges. Most, if not all, IT jobs in Europe require at least basic English and I have worked in fully forn parts where no-one [except your correspondent] had English as a first language but that was the language for the project.
Itt, ha nem beszélsz akkor nem kell dolgozik.
veni bibi saltavi
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: Itt, ha nem beszélsz akkor nem kell dolgozik.
Yes, please - I WOULD like fries with that... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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ravikhoda wrote: is it okay to reject some talented person just because he/she is not good with
other languages?
Depends on the language; if you are talking about English, then I'd say it would be a valid ground to reject someone.
"Talent" is no alternative to being able to read MSDN or CodeProject. International projects are usually in English, and most logical errors are due to miscommunications. Most books and documentation is in English.
And if someone can learn decent C#, I do not see why they could not learn a bit of English - unless they are simply not interested in learning a language. Well, that is simply a choice on the devs' side, just as "not hiring" could be one.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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