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Where is the Dalek when we need him ?
OT. Hey Marco ! How are you doing ?
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Rage wrote: OT. Hey Marco ! How are you doing ?
OT Back. Doing good, came out of the service, got a job a few weeks ago, slowly socializing and getting back to a "normal" life. How about you?
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Just to complicate matters, "Sir" can also be used sarcastically, implying a lack of respect for the person being addressed.
This form is commonly used by the police when talking to suspected criminals, and snobby waiters / shop-assistants when talking to anyone they feel superior to.
Or, as Homer Simpson put it: Maybe for once someone will call me "Sir", without adding, "You're making a scene." 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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In Czech, you should used it when ordering cheese.
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It all depends. But, here's a simple rule of thumb.
If the person you're addressing is just a lowly laboratory assistant, use "Mister".
If the person you're addressing is a jet squadron leader, use "Sir".
Use your best judgment when variant between these types is to be addressed.
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No but he was good friends with George W.B.
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Quote: he was good friends with George W.B.
That is the reason he was tried to meet W.B without appointment on 9/11
நெஞ்சு பொறுக்கு திலையே-இந்த
நிலைகெட்ட மனிதரை நினைந்துவிட்டால்
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I'm sorry, but having a friend who died in the Twin Towers, I find that very distasteful.
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One persons terrorist is another persons freedom fighter. While I find the name distasteful, that doesn't mean that I have the right to impose my belief that it's wrong on the people who named it. That's part of the reason we're in the mess we're in right now. Perhaps, if more people took this to heart, the world wouldn't be in the sorry state that it's in right now.
Oh, and you really should have posted this in the Soapbox. This will go south very quickly.
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I just read another article about almost all the programmers at Disney getting laid off and replaced with programmers from lets say India.
A couple of months ago, it was Southern California Edison, the local power company.
I talk to a guy that works for Honda in Gardena CA, and they replaced 1/2 the programmers there.
He said this has been going on at a fast rate since Obama was elected.
They pay these folks 1/2 the money, and force them to work twice the hours if they don't have a green card.
One foreign programmer bought a house, so now he works twice the hours.
Now there laying off the poor programmers from lets say India, and replacing them with another foreign programmer, because they can't follow the directions of the project, and submitted something totally different.
Here's the part that blows my mind.
He says that all the talent in India is gone, and there here now. And there's nobody left in India worth their weight.
I'm a rogue programmer, had no idea this was happening. I read these articles and wonder if I made a mistake getting back into this gig. I do realize that as society moves forward with more technology, that more programmers will be needed to do the work. But on the flip side of the coin, wondering if I should farm out some work to these guys.
Oh, I mean no offense to Indian members here at Code Project, but I am curious if this is true or not. And what the programming scene is like now in India.
I'm going home now, it's 5PM here. Got to go bowling tonight.
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jkirkerx wrote: I'm a rogue programmer, had no idea this was happening.
This has been going on for 20+ years. The pendulum swings back and forth. Disney will learn its lesson, like so many other companies have.
Sure, if there's by-the-book, cookie cutter grunt work programming to do, maybe hiring someone "overseas" will work for a company.
The problem for me is that there's a lot of problems with hiring practices here in the US. I detest it when a company outsources work because of claims of reducing labor costs -- sure, that's a short term bang to the bottom line. I also detest how overseas workers get paid sh*t wages and work in sh*t conditions. Have you ever seen those pictures of "factory programmers" in India? Here's one[^] My god, it's inhumane.
And while I enjoy the hourly rates I can get as a consultant, it's pathetic that teachers make 1/3 of what I make, because I think teachers are a whole lot more valuable, especially given some of the stupid projects I've worked on (MX Missile Train, GOP Data Center, etc)
And the weirdest thing is the recruiting business. Post your resume on Monster and 90% of the people calling are Indian, with names like "Joe" and "Jane". I just hang up on them, but I also feel sad for them because they're probably getting paid a pittance, someone set up a "professional" looking website and registered a business here in the US, and they're like sharks feeding on job postings -- I have literally gotten calls from three different Indian recruiters in one day for the same crap Ruby on Rails job.
This industry (like others) is mostly FUBAR when it comes to employer/employee relationships.
But you think overseas outsourcing is a problem? Just wait until programmers are replaced by programs. It will happen. The elephant in the room everyone is avoiding is the whole trend of roboticizing the workforce, which is starting to really pick up steam. Here's[^] an interesting article on replacing truck drivers. This[^] article is quite astonishing, particularly: Believe it or not, writers are at risk too. Many of the news articles you’ve read over the last few years have been written by software, and you probably haven’t even noticed. Some of the world’s most reputable publications — Forbes, for example — regularly run computer-written articles. This is especially true in sports and finance, as those verticals are extremely data-oriented.
Welcome to Generation R(obot), where your job can probably be done better, faster, cheaper, and safer by a machine. It would be a good idea if we crossed that line with eyes wide open.
Then again, if markets are allowed to be truly free, all those robots will have nothing to do when masses of people become unemployed and stop being able to consume the products the robots are producing. So there may be checks and balances, but there will also be further separation of those who have, and those who do not have. So much for the BS that we live in a global economy.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: Have you ever seen those pictures of "factory programmers" in India? Here's one[^] My god, it's inhumane.
See the little cross partitions between the desks these privileged workers have, well if you remove them that is what I work in. In Singapore, at a major financial institution.
Admittedly very few of 300 people on my floor are programmers, that just means they have no respect for your concentration and feel free to laugh and clown around at their leisure. 18 months and I'm out of here!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: 18 months and I'm out of here!
I'm not sure I could hack 18 months. I bailed on Citi after 5 months of hell, and those were much better work conditions (except the commute was a 3 hour a day torture-fest).
Marc
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Well they do pay me a shitpot of money and I have always been a tart. Lifestyle in SG in one of the best anywhere I know of, so there are some perks!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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jkirkerx wrote: And there's nobody left in India worth their weight.
Am still in India; weighing around 72 kg. Is that weighty enough?
More seriously, there're a lot of programmers here, more than two thousand of them in my building. And, this is one of several buildings across various 'tech-parks' around here.
Coming to the 'factory programmers' thing, that's so in some service companies here. In 'product-based', aka, foreign companies which have directly set up shop here, its much better*.
* Nowadays, there's shift to an 'open office' concept; not sure how productive it will be for programming jobs.
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Avijnata wrote: 'open office' concept; not sure how productive it will be for programming jobs.
In my opinion, open offices are a great solution - As long as they don't get too noisy*.
Programming is a Team thing (usually). Teams work best when the communication works well, and open offices seem to enforce this.
* Even in that case, there's still this[^] for me
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Regarding the headset*, not sure whether its long-term use will gradually make one hard of hearing?
* irrespective of whether it is noise-cancelling or not.
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Avijnata wrote: not sure whether its long-term use will gradually make one hard of hearing?
Naah, didn't hear about anyone having this problem
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