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And it had multiple source "windows", and mouse support, and...
I loved it to death - for the first time, you could look at several parts of your code at the same time (Microsoft, are you listening?)
I think I still have the original disks and manual in the spare room - but they'll be on 360K floppies (possibly 720, I can't remember) and I don't have anything to read them any more!
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OriginalGriff wrote: (Microsoft, are you listening?)
No
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
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http://www.briefeditor.com/download.htm[^]
Free.
Cheers,
Mike Fidler
"I intend to live forever - so far, so good." Steven Wright
"I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met." Also Steven Wright
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Get thee behind me, Satan!
I've got too used to Intellisense, and I'm trying not to install too much old stuff - I still have QuickC for DOS installed, and had to force myself not to install Ami Pro '97 on this PC (because it was a much, much better work processor than Word is, even now...)
Nooooo.....I won't do it....I won't....I'll just download it in case I need it later, honest....
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I loved B.R.I.E.F. It was made my Underware Software (seriously).
The thing I really miss about the old editors was that they could edit HUGE files that would not fit into all available memory. I needed that just yesterday! Notepad refused to load a 1.9gig text file on a 64bit OS with 4gigs of free memory!
BRIEF had a great macro language as well. I wrote a macro to provide popup context menus for the different C structs <-> DB mappings we used on a series of projects. It was like intellisense 0.1. Somewhere along the way, they converted the macro language from a LISP-like prefix syntax to more of a C syntax.
Then the IDEs started coming out and eclipsed* the single purpose editors...
*bad pun
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TextPad ... 
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TextPad failed on a 15Gig file with 5.9Gigs of available memory.
It was worth a try! Thanks for the suggestion.
"The file size exceeds the limit allowed and cannot be saved."
I don't really need an editor for these large files, just a viewer!
I found some other suggestions I will try.
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LOL, you're right! I just turned it off. I've always wondered about that one, been bitten several times. Thanks for the tip!
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VS 6.0 had the much more useful option: Enable copy without selection. One of the first things I did after each installation was switching off this option. This way I was protected from almost all accidental copying.
I was quite mad when I discovered they changed the option to only apply to empty lines in later versions.  I don't even bother to change the setting nowadays, because most of the time when I want to paste, the cursor is on a non-empty line making the option worthless to me.
The good thing about pessimism is, that you are always either right or pleasently surprised.
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When using line copy paste, the contents are inserted on the line above regardless of your cursor position. This makes it a simple way to move a line.
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+5 Thanks, I missed that. And yes, Why, Micrpsoft? Why?
Gus Gustafson
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OriginalGriff wrote: Why, Microsoft? Why?
I've been observing that for decades. I've concluded that its part of a secret Programmer Works Initiative campaign they're running. They make poor design choices and poor choices of defaults simply to keep more of us employed. Its working. Thanks Microsoft.
This is a joke. This is only a joke. Had this been a serious posting... 
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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I regularly use cut without a selection as the most convenient way to delete a line, blank or not. It's faster than selecting and deleting. Copy less so (on a blank line) but it's consistent with cut. I use copy on non blank lines a lot though.
As for the Shift+insert etc keys, I believe their longevity is linked to their utility for left handers (use the left hand for the mouse). Despite using them back in the DOS days, I really burnt their use in to my brain when I had to swap my mouse hand.
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Probably it used to work that way by oversight back in v1 or something. They figured out it was dumb but were afraid of upsetting users by changing existing functionality (something they've gotten over  ), hence the option being added to turn it off. Of course the default is on so no one used to the old behaviour complains.
Can't really see why it's useful myself, but backwards compatibility and options for all the things used to be MS' forte.
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Obviously, it's that way so that noobs can more efficiently spam copy/pasta. Formatting is preserved so to facilitate finding and editing the magic numbers.
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I forgot, sorry.
The French work with The Germans when both the little company and the termination get all messed up (13)
Please can someone solve it, I'm not at work tomorrow. Where's Rage when you need him?
Hint: it is an anagram, or three anagrams, and don't mention the war.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
modified 14-May-15 9:28am.
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I suspect you are up tomorrow as well - certainly I can't make head or tail of it!
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That's the problem when you make them up, you're either convinced it is too simple or worry that no-one will ever think in the same direction that your brain wondered off when you weren't paying attention to it properly.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Collaboration
Anyone want to work out how I was trying to lead you to that?
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Well, maybe if we all work together we could do it... 
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both
the little company - co
and
the termination - abortion
get all - all
messed up - anagram of coabortionall
collaboration, like the French working with the Nazis (Germans).
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Ah.
I think you may have over-thought that one! 
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Yes, there was a lot of crossing out on my note pad.
Tomorrow's will be nice and simple but not obvious (I think / hope), someone give me a prod if it isn't up at the right time, I'm supposed to be working from home in the morning but remembering to do things is not a strong point of mine these days.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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I know that feeling - I have to stick everything in the tablet, or I'll forget... 
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