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rnbergren wrote: what does a programmer have to do to get some kudos around here?
Talk about a virgin's thighs?
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Slacker007 wrote: Talk about a virgin's thighs?
I don't want to hear about a 45 year old programmers legs!! 
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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wrong just wrong. Funny but wrong. I am 46 thank you very much.
To err is human to really mess up you need a computer
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I'm only 42.. still got time
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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I could imagine that it was just too early for them to fully appreciate it. A demo is still somewhat abstract to a user. Wait a couple of weeks to allow them to get used to it and recognize that it really helps them and if they haven't got back to you by themselves then, drop them a line asking about their experience with it. I guess you'll get better feedback then
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rnbergren wrote: what does a programmer have to do to get some kudos around here?
Um...
How about practicing at inspiring people during presentations?
One or both of two things could have been the reason for the apathetic response:
0: The product was uninspiring, and the audience was falling asleep.
1: The presentation was uninspiring, and the audience was falling asleep.
There's more to presenting than just presenting stuff, and a lot of it is worth learning.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Or
2: The audience did not recognize the value and potential of the new product
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Then you failed your presentation.
You have to know your audience and present accordingly.
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Kinda shot yourself in the foot, there.
Mind you, that's why we're issued with two, because we invariably shoot at least one.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Not really, I still stand by it. Presentation is no doubt important, but there are two sides of a presentation. The presenter, and the audience. There are obligations of the audience as well, and if they are unable to comprehend even a basic level of what the presentation is about, it is NOT the presenter's fault.
The presenter does not have time to dumb down every single detail to suit every single audience member. And keep in mind there are uncontrolled circumstances that affect the presentation. E.g, presentation happens right after previous long presentation that just happened, presentation happens at end of the day and no one wants to listen, etc..
And also there is the fact that OP was hired to be a developer, not a presenter. Maybe his presentation wasn't so good, but said Boss did not do much to reward 9 months of work that HE made them do.
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Wow - I sincerely ope I never have to sit through one of your presentations!
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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I couldn't think of anything to say to his reply without biting his head off, so I followed my grandma's advice.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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True Mark, Presentation is actually a strong suit of mine. I have taught evening programming classes for years, presented to large gatherings and usually(not always I admit) get good reviews and positive comments on my presentation style and wit.
The presentation was fine, there is a reason the BA wanted me to represent us. So that isn't the problem. The problem is more the management style here. A head nod is about the most you ever get. They are worried that if they give you more than that you might think you deserve a raise or aghast a bonus. Got to avoid that possibility at all costs.
It is truly uninspiring.
To err is human to really mess up you need a computer
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rnbergren wrote: It is truly uninspiring.
A sad fact of life is that so many people who claw their way into management seem to believe that being uninspiring is part of the job description.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark, that is so on the mark. So conservative about what they might perhaps do because of Risk avoidance.
To err is human to really mess up you need a computer
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rnbergren wrote: It is going to save 40 people about 10 hours a month in tedious work and it is extremely fast.
Sounds like you've tried to make something useful. I can see your mistake straight away
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Well, euhm Good job[^] ?
Fletcher said: There are no two words in the english language more harmful than "Good job"
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I try to do as little actual work as possible. That way, I won't have any expectations of praise that is not coming anyway... 
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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If you're in IT because you want a hearty slap on the back and a 'well done, great job...', you're in the wrong business.
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true, But isn't that sad that even the hearty slap on the back isn't going to happen here.
To err is human to really mess up you need a computer
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I've never expected one, so I've never been disappointed. I don't take the job or the people personally - it's just how I make money. Don't get me wrong, I love it but I get personal satisfaction for knowing that I've done the best possible job that I can and don't worry if others don't react with enthusiasm to my efforts.
I learnt long ago that when you demo a product, no matter how beautifully crafted, the comments will never be about how great the functionality is, only "isn't that font a bit small?" and "Do you think that text would look better in pink?".
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Karel Čapek wrote: "isn't that font a bit small?" and "Do you think that text would look better in
pink?".
That is not due to ICT. That is marketing.
I only care about whether the tool does its work as advertised, in an efficient and effective way. There is NO (!) consideration on the color of the moment or anyones subjective taste. If you want to talk UI, we talk standards, predictability, efficiency, discoverability, and how great the Windows 3.11 common controls are.
We are not decorators. We don't focus on color. Color and font are settings for the user, and an application should be following those settings. Picking whatever color the manager wants probably means that the app will stop supporting high-contrast screens. Gratz. You just broke existing functionality because you like "WhiteSmoke".
Rant done.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Alas, such is the life of a programmer.
If you didn't do a good job you would have surely heard about it.
I learned a long time ago "no news is good news"
If you want to really highlight the improvements:
1) Include a demonstration of the same task using the old software
2) Then amaze them with the ease and quickness of your new implementation.
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rnbergren wrote: what does a programmer have to do to get some kudos around here?
Tell them it's been great working here, but you're planning to move on to another job. 
/ravi
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