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Jeremy Falcon wrote: These aren't real reasons; they're religious-type reasons man.
Please, don't tell me how to think. I'm going to dislike PHP for that stuff no matter what you say, you don't have to defend it. I still use it and build some pretty cool software with it.
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Andy Brummer wrote: Please, don't tell me how to think. I'm going to dislike PHP for that stuff no matter what you say, you don't have to defend it.
Spoken like a religious person.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Spoken like a religious person.
I see.
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I'm comparatively new to php. It does the job for me most admirably.
And (with its function library) it also look like C - and that, alone causes a warm fuzzy feeling with memories of when my hair was all dark.
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Good for you man. Right out of the box, one of the best things you'll notice about PHP is the amount of open source crap out there you can use with it, especially on a *nix machine where you can shell out. Need to resample audio files? No problem. Need to convert PDF to text? No problem. And the list goes on. There are tons of libs out there to help you with this all for free. It does have a few flaws IMO, but the good outweighs the bad.
Jeremy Falcon
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I like the fact that a lot of anti Israel sites are written using Zend
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Well there ya go! 
Jeremy Falcon
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After years of using and defending PHP, you *finally* bumped up against something that you found a problem with? Or did you even bump into an issue with it, your post seems to say you saw someone else having an issue with it on YT.
If it works for you, what's the problem?
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Sounds like an opportunity to me. PHP is in fact open source. Like it's been pointed out in this thread, there are many community things out there that you can use to overcome your hurdles.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0[^]
Top comment from YouTube staff :
We never thought a video would be watched in numbers greater than a 32-bit integer (=2,147,483,647 views), but that was before we met PSY. "Gangnam Style" has been viewed so many times we have to upgrade!
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At least it is signed, to allow for the "unviewers"?
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That's the first thing I thought too. Nice to know even YT has some legacy code they'd rather not talk about. Makes me feel better.
Jeremy Falcon
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If we all go and watch the YouTube video of the Arianne rocket launch fail caused by an integer overflow...we might cause a YouTube integer overflow.
This is how we will defeat the terminator robots in our dystopian future - unchecked integer assignments.
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Nish Sivakumar wrote: "Gangnam Style" has been viewed so many times we have to upgrade!
The brain of the users.
Read it in the Cybermen voice 
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Psy for president... 
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No reason not to just stop counting at maxint.
FTFM
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But if they stopped counting, how would the sheep know what they should be watching? 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Pfft, Psy is so last year. I mean stop at maxint.
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That is why counters should be started as text, then you can do the math internally using floating point and converted back...
Seriously, I worked on a system that did just that...
Created havoc when trying to balance values at month end.
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You'd still run into a similar issue with max length not being large enough and then converting them to numbers anyway to do arithmetic on them. Which still means the int max would come into play, and as an added bonus increase computation time. I'll stick with ints. YT should have at least went with an unsigned 32-bit int at the very least, which is a greater amount than half the population of the world so it would carry them far enough.
Jeremy Falcon
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Obviously, everything should be stored as text. I mean, what's the point of using a numeric field for anything, if it's going to have a limit?
You can even make things easier by storing it already formatted... You know, like instead of storing -12345, you actually store "(12,345)". It makes it easier to display things, and only adds a little overhead when you have to parse it for processing.
And you know what? Why store those values in separate fields? It'd be more efficient to put a few of them together in the same field, along with some tags so you can categorize things. I mean, if you're doing some parsing when you load them anyway, you might as well compact the data a little, right?
... Yeah, I've worked with systems like that too... Not quite as bad as the horrible and disgusting exaggeration above... But pretty bad 
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I beat you to the draw, but your way of saying it was more funny. 
Jeremy Falcon
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