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I'm trying to decide whether to go with liquid cooling for my next rig.
Does anyone here have any experiences good or bad with liquid cooling that they could share?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote: Does anyone here have any experiences good or bad with liquid cooling that they could share?
I'm assuming you're talking about boxes, not "It was a really hot day and I had this 6-pack chilling, and then a mate come over with a whole slab of beer, and then we decided to head out...[mumble mumble] ...and we never did find out what happened to the Penguin" kind of story.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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MM would be the best source for tales of that ilk!
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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It may be apocryphal, but I once heard of a liquid-cooled system (room-sized mainframe you understand) that shut down every Tuesday afternoon. When the gardener turned on the hose to water the plants. 
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Positioned cleverly, the TOWER, air vent in front of chair there to relieve went inside instead of toilet a stream, of liquid coolant at 36 degrees, not even leave, game, for a minute 
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Don't know about anyone else, but I find this unfunny, bordering on offensive. Certainly not a constructive contribution to the discussion.
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Nah - he's just taking the piss
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Pooper Pig is unfunny, may be offensive to muslims. Poop may be offensive if some is eating while to browse PLEASE REMOVE
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Nareesh1 wrote: Pooper Pig is unfunny, may be offensive to muslims. Poop may be offensive if some is eating while to browse PLEASE REMOVE
And I think you're really a Joo.
You are circumcised, have a stupid beard and don't like ham, pork or bacon.
Maybe you are a member of the Judean People's Front.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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No, I think he is a member of People's Front of Judea!
Your time will come, if you let it be right.
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I thought he'd be part of the Judean Popular Peoples Front
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Splitters!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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At risk of bringing the thread back on track.
Corsair Hydro Series H80[^]
I got one of these in my latest "Rig"  a mini ITX system. The unit is plug and play, is very quiet and importantly keeps the temperatures low on my un-clocked i5. Its a 10 from Len.
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My name is SoMad and I have been a waterhead since 2007.
It can seem a bit intimidating at first, but once you get your feet wet (  ), it's really just simple plumbing, not rocket science.
I started out with a Zalman Reserator XT[^] and I am still using it on my main system. I don't think they make that model any longer and it would be hard to recommend it since it had some shortcomings out of the box.
Over the years I have updated the internal pump to a more powerful model as well as replaced all the tubing and quick-release connectors in favor of better quality with larger diameter.
With the upgrades I have made to the cooling system, I run a single loop that cools the CPU, motherboard (chipset North Bridge + Voltage Regulator), graphics card (GPU + RAM) as well as my two 500GB WD (ABYS) drives. As you can tell, my computer is getting pretty old - the parts just wont die  .
The main thing I would recommend is to stay away from the fancy, colorful additives. For the last couple of years I have simply been using distilled water with a silver coil dropped into the reservoir and it just works.
I haven't looked at this stuff for quite some time, but here are a few (oldish) resources:
Overclock.net[^]
Martin's Liquid Lab/[^]
Skinnee Labs[^]
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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I've been doing it for about as long; the only thing I'd add is to pay attention to your system. A few years ago I had a loop dump and kill my GPU because something in the biocide/die combo I was using was slowly rotting away my tubing from the inside until it split. 
I'd been wondering why my temps had been slowly going up; finding the pins in the waterblock all gunked up with plastic crumbs explained that one too. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: I'd been wondering why my temps had been slowly going up; finding the pins in the waterblock all gunked up with plastic crumbs explained that one too.
This is what I worry about. The maintenance required.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I had a watercooled machine, and that was very quiet compared to the same machine fan cooled.
The machine I have at the moment has a Corsair H80 sealed cpu water cooler, and that does help with the noise, EXCEPT when the gpu is making a racket.
I think what it really comes down to is what you are trying to achieve, noise vs cooling.
I wrote this article up when I went to the Corsair unit: Corsair Hydro H80 CPU Cooler Install[^]
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If you only want to cool the CPU you should stick to some sets, but if you plan to enhance like cooling the GPU you some extendable solution.
But I have goods experience with Artic Cooling. Best "bang for the buck": A good quality but really fair.
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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I moved to water cooling for my most recent system, after having an air-cooled system that sounded a bit like a 747 starting up when the CPU was under load. I will probably go back to air cooling (but with more attention to reported sound levels!) with my next system. Problems I have encountered:
1) Even though both the cooler and the (mid tower) case I used were made by ThermalTake, I had to offset the mounting of the radiator and remove one of the two fans from it to get everything to fit - I think that you really need to be using a full size tower case to be sure that you won't have this sort of problem.
2) The radiator clogs with dust much faster than the fins of a typical air cooled heat sink, so you have to blow and vacuum it out at least every 2-3 months.
3) I am noticing some deterioration of the cooling performance after a year (even after cleaning), and am concerned that there may be some internal corrosion or clogging - in a sealed system, there is no way of checking and/or fixing this.
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Thank you. This is the type of feedback I am looking for.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Codeproject, you went AWOL. I missed you so. Where oh where did you go?
Glad you are back, but for how long? We want to know.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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Chris switched everything over to codeproject.net. Gotta keep up with the times bro.
Jeremy Falcon
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Dang it anyhow. That's what I get for not living here 24/7. Better luck next time.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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So you weren't done? Clicky[^]
Your time will come, if you let it be right.
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A database update that went wrong. I'm going to write a Tip-from-the-the-Trenches about it, but essentially an update that should have been a 5 min update, that hit a snag at the worst possible time and escalated into an hour long update that, of course, then failed.
It's purely a database issue, and no data has been lost. It just locked everything up and forced us to shut down the site in order to give it a fighting chance to recover gracefully. Which it didn't.
And of course it all worked flawlessly on our (deliberately) underpowered test rig.
In any case, the final update is still limping along in the background so things may remain slow for the next couple of hours.
What a day. Sorry for the hassle.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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