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Jörgen Andersson wrote: eyes closed.
simply not true![^]
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Which should I get? Mostly will use for reading books, eg. Nook and kindle.
If Android, which device?
Thanks.
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Kindle Fire.
I have a Kindle Fire, Ipad, and Lenovo Thinkpad (Win 8.1). For reading books, kindle books specifically, the Kindle fire is hands down the best. They each have their uses though, and I'm not sure you could get the Nook software on you Kindle fire, but it is just Android after all. Most, or a lot, of android apps work fine on the Kindle Fire.
Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.
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I would recommend an iPad air, very nice piece of kit!
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I use a Nexus 7 for that, and other things. Very nice, and has two big advantages over the Apple version:
1) It's considerably cheaper.
2) It doesn't involve iTunes...
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OriginalGriff wrote: 1) It's considerably cheaper.
2) It doesn't involve iTunes...
I also own the Nexus 7 and I 100% agree with what you said on both accounts.
Except I think you meant to say,
"doesn't involve [the iTunesVirus]"... 
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I was being nice to the Fanbois! 
Silly question - did the 4.4.4 update "lag" your Nexus a bit? Mine seems to be slower to wake up than it used to be, particularly if it gets a wifi connection, but can't reach the internet through it (Tesco is a prime culprit here). I'm hoping that the Lollipop push will fix it when it rolls out to my device.
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Yes, I have definitely experienced the lag on my Nexus 7 also.
It has actually driven me quite crazy recently and I wrote a app to kill all processes thinking it was one of the processes which was causing the problem. Then I figured maybe the hardware was just getting old now. I noticed that the newer ones do have quite a better chip.
I'm with you on hoping that the Lollipop makes things better again. Wish they'd say when it would be deployed.
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Thank elephant for that!
I was starting to think I was the only one - I've seen nothing on t'interweb...
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I hadn't, but if you follow the link from that page to the support forum: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/nexus/to2BHjmhh-I/6vO3-W8z9nYJ[^] there was something interesting on page two about Google Now curing it for Lollipop, and a link to the instructions to turn it off: https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/2841495?hl=en[^] - they didn't work, but that's documentation for you - Just start the Google App as described, and touch the three vertical dots in the bottom right corner. Select "Settings". Turn "Google Now" off with the top line.
I figured it couldn't hurt to try on 4.4.4, so...
It's early yet, but my tablet lag is pretty much gone so far - I've got to go to Tesco later on, so I'll see what happens there, but I'm hopeful so far.
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iTunes may or may not be a virus. The crApple updater on the XP box that I last had a bit of their software (Quicktime Player) installed that decided that for the purpose of being able to select "No, and never offer that application to me again" my administrator account wasn't actually an administrator account and wasn't allowed to stop me from being bombarded by offers to install other iCrapplications that I had neither the need nor desire nor ability to use most definitely was.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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3) it doesn't involve iOS
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I have the Original Google Nexus 7 (Made by Asus) and bought it the day it released. It is over 2 years old now and it is a bit slower but the new ones have an even better chip. It still works very well have had no hardware issues or weird upgrade problems and it is been through 3 or 4 major Android OS upgrades. I am very happy with it.
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If you just want books, Kindle Paperwhite.
IF you want a tablet, Galaxy Tab or Google Nexus and then whatever size you want.
Despite the 'it just work claims' by the Apple brigade, it doesn't. On holiday this year, our friends daughter had endless problems with the hotels wifi, both my daughter and my android tablets worked flawlessly. The Youtube experience on an iPad was impossible, there appears to be a heavily manipulated search results, and couldn't find the videos I was trying to show them that I can find with the same keyword searches on a android or desktop experience.
And then there is the browsers....... 
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Go to the store, check them out and make your own decision. Taking advice from the zealots here in the CP Lounge is dangerous business. Everybody has varying opinions on the definition / importance of cost, quality and capabilities.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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On the other hand, what's the point of asking opinions of people who don't have opinions?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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 Your own reply to the OP is the poster child for why I made my comments.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Hey, if you ask me for an opinion, you're taking your life in your hands.
But that's what I want when I call for opinions.
"Well, I think... Maybe... But I suppose everything's great, really. You decide" answers don't give me any useful information.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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If you already have an "intelligent" phone and want to read, then get a kindle.
I'd rather be phishing!
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This[^] and this[^] piss all over the itoy, and have an operating system that doesn't rely on being plugged into a bloatware app on a PC (and cute little things like an accessible file system, and default programs -- you know, things like you get with a real computer operating system).
There are loads of e-book readers for 'droid, so you get to pick the one you like best -- or you can do what I did: install several and use them for different books (you don't have to copy in separate copies the books for each reader, like you do with the itoy).
Atcherley, if you buy both, it comes to about the same price as the itoy mini.
Onda has just released octa-core tablets/phablets, as well. They've got a very good rep, too, and a very active on-line user base.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I just got an Asus Transformer Pad TF701T...I love it except for one fly in the ointment...it has this mega irritating battery saving feature where it is constantly fiddling with the brightness of the screen...there's a workaround to make it go away but it never quite goes all the way away...
...I would have totally recommended it except for that. It has a 2560x1600 resolution screen at 300 pixels per inch...very sharp. Tegra 4 processor, blows away my old Tegra 2...2 gigs of ram, 32 gig internal SD Card and an external slot.
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Do you like Android or iOS? Do you have an Android phone or iPhone? Do you want to install any and all 3rd party apps or are you have with the (admittedly huge) collection of Apple apps?
I personally prefer the iPad (mini and Air are both stunning pieces of hardware). I find I keep accidentally hitting buttons on Android devices while holding them, and I find the Android experience far less smooth than iOS.
However, the quality of Apple software in the last couple of years has taken a downward plunge.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Newfoundland Vasectomy
After having their 11th child, a Newfoundland couple decided that was enough as they could not afford a larger house. So the husband went to his doctor/veterinarian and told him that he and his wife didn't want to have any more children.
The doctor told him that there was a procedure called a vasectomy that could fix the problem but that it was expensive.
A less costly alternative, said the doctor, was to go home, get a firecracker, light it, put it in a beer can, then hold the can up to his ear and count to 10.
The Newfie said to the doctor, "I may not be the smartest man in the world, but I don't see how putting a firecracker in a beer can next to my ear is going to help me."
"Trust me," said the doctor.
So the man went home, lit a firecracker and put it in a beer can.
He held the can up to his ear and began to count:
"1"
"2"
"3"
"4"
"5"
at which point he paused, placed the beer can between his legs, and resumed counting on his other hand.
This procedure also works in Quebec and some parts of Saskatchewan.
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