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I think those are guidelines as opposed to rules
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I use VS2012/13 with Resharper (and a few other plugins) most of the time - although XCode is okay (probably good, if you'd never used VS), it's still a bit of culture shock each time I go back to it.
At the moment VS seems to be Microsoft's best product (that I know of, at least) - I'm quite excited about what's coming up in VS14  .
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LOL, same here!
I thought I wanted to get into Android development until I installed Eclipse and actually started doing it. Going from VS to Eclipse is like going from driving a nice Toyota to driving an old Geo Metro. Really makes you appreciate the Toyota
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Lots of agreement here....apart from me.
Don't get me wrong: the best debugger I have ever seen is Visual Studio's.
But as an editor and general development environment I haven't seen anything better, and cool that it is cross platform.
What I would say though is that one or two of the aspects that I use regularly (e.g. code reformat) have started to get a bit buggy). Also, I would say that, like Libre/OpenOffice, the configuration system can be a bit impenetrable. It's really hard to find things, especially if you don't know what they call it in Eclipse lingo.
Only the other day, I was trying to add a system macro in a C++ project. All the addition buttons were greyed out. It took me ages to find that you have to add them to a "user-defined" plugin. From an architectural point of view, I can see why it is like that, but it just wasn't clear to me at the time.
In summary, there is a steep learning curve, but I love it to bits.
My particular preferred environment is Eclipse for project management, edit and general source exploration; for debug VS blows Eclipse into the wind at least on the Microsoft platform and for build I use a platform independent build framework in the console. It sounds convoluted, but I actually like it.
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Gack. Unfortunately, I'm and embedded developer that works with TI DSPs. A few years ago, TI switch from a VC6 style IDE to Eclipse. I've never seen such a pig before. I've gotten to the point where after the base project is setup through Eclipse, I switch to using 'make' to do my builds and jEdit for my editing purposes. The only thing I then use Eclipse for is for the debugger. My employer has finally given me access to some of the Parasoft tools so I'll probably spend a little more time in Eclipse, if only for the static analysis tools.
Eclipse problems and complaints:
1) Slow, slow, slow and slow. I can walk down to the kitchen, buy a soda and get back to my desk before Eclipse is done loading.
2) If I have a failure with an update, ~80% of the time Eclipse will no longer start. I'll end up having to reinstall the whole environment. (Don't know if this is an Eclipse problem or a TI problem)
3) Why the hell would I want to see every file in the source directory in my project tree. Let me specify the files that are in the project.
I have more than just 3 complaints but over all, I like the old style IDE much better than the Eclipse version. The only obvious advantage to using Eclipse is that I could also be using it in linux.
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I feel your pain. I am feeling your pain. Oh! The pain! My current project is a BIRT reporting web app.
I find eclipse a morass of perspectives and confusing tab configurations and unintuitivity <- just made that up in honor of this thread.
There are times when gouging my eyes out with a fork would be a delightful diversion.
I have a better experience using NetBeans but it isn't as ubiquitous. When creating desktop Java apps, using the window layout editor is comparable to the forms designer in VS. Not bad really.
I equate the near-vertical learning curve with eclipse, to learning to develop Windows apps back in the day using VC++ 6. Took me a long time to get the feel and grok the contexts.
Cheers,
Mike Fidler
"I intend to live forever - so far, so good." Steven Wright
"I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met." Also Steven Wright
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It might be just what you are used to - I prefer Eclipse to VS in many ways, but it takes a while to become comfortable with either, and switching back and forth is painful. That said, I much prefer IntelliJ IDEA to either of them.
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Yeah, Eclipse it's a terrible IDE, i had to use it once and i swore i'll never do it again unless i really have too. If you're developing on Java NetBeans is far better.
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I got an email from PayPal saying that they intercepted suspicious activity on my account and hence locked it. At first I fell for it since I also received a text message (purpotedly from my Bank) that a transaction on my Credit Card was declined. The grammar of the email was unusually exceptional and not like the regular deliberately goofed up spams.
Later, I grew suspicious because:
1. The credit card in question was hotlisted by me long ago. Called up the Bank and was told that they haven't received any request for processing and also said that the card is blocked and cannot be used until activated again.
2. The email contained a link to activate my account. Genuine emails don't have them, they just instruct you to login and activate. (The link turned out to be *.edu.my)
3. The PayPal Banner image came from a completely ridiculous domain (asian-hairextensions.nl)
Oh wait, the email I received it on was not the one I use on PayPal.
What I still do not understand is why I received the text message on the card, or is it just a part of the grand scheme to trick me?
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Could be.
I always go to these site, and log in with the foulest swear words I can conjure up.
When it says 'Thank you for logging in' I know its a fake.
And I get to insult someone.
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Funny, but also risky for two reasons:
1. By reacting in any way to the mail beyond plain text reading, you may have inadvertently sent back a confirmation to the sender that this is a valid mail address - and now you're subscribed to even more spam!
2. The web site you loaded may contain malicious code that messes with your computer even before you can think up any insults to enter! By the time you get to the funny part, the spammer may already have won.
Of course, with the right tools and settings you can prevent either, but the safe way to deal with such mails is to not react at all.
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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Stefan_Lang wrote: now you're subscribed to even more spam!
GREAT! I love insulting people!
Tools and setting are up to date!
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don't you ever feel like firing back all the viruses you can find?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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What viruses? I use common sense, and if the lack of reports from the assorted antivirus tools I have been using over the years are any indication, nothing more is needed. The worst that ever made it on my PC is the ask toolbar. I've killed Java along with it and had no more issues.
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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I am sure if you went looking you could find loads of viruses, and wouldn't it be sweet to infected these lowlifes with their own cr@p
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Agreed.
Since British telecom decided to ditch Yahoo as their e-mail provider, my account gets nothing but spam. Most of the messages are flagged as having no content. Hmmmmm! I bet they do but I'm not stupid enough to open them.
Another clue is to check the link by hovering the mouse pointer over it. I'll bet it has nothing to do with Pay Pal or whoever.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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Shameel wrote: why I received the text message on the card, or is it just a part of the grand scheme to trick me?
Possible, but unlikely unless you are in the habit of passing out you mobile number and email at the same time when you give out your card details.
Probably, it's just a coincidence: have a close look at the text and see what it wants you to do (obviously you are far too bright to actually do it!) - chances are it's two different sets of scummers as a similar time.
Obviously, forward the email to Paypal on spoof@paypal.com and let them do with it as they will.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I have this email id added in paypal as an addition email and they have my mobile number too. It could also be possible that PayPal database is hacked?
OriginalGriff wrote: forward the email to Paypal on spoof@paypal.com
Done, thanks. I was expecting an automated reply, but haven't received any.
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Shameel wrote: possible that PayPal database is hacked?
Possible - but I'd have thought we'd have heard.
But...I'm pretty sure that when my card details were used in Hong Kong to buy £5000 of costume jewellery a few years ago, the only place the details could have recently come from was Amazon...and I never heard anything about that!
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OriginalGriff wrote: Amazon
Now don't talk about it. They've started operations in India and when you try to purchase something, it insists on saving your card details (minus the CVV number I suppose). I'm not sure why they cannot provide the option to the customer to choose if they wish to save the card details.
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I keep getting linked in requests at work. Funny I only gave them my home email.
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Likewise. I get enough linked-in generated spam without anyone else getting in on the act.
I am constantly receiving requests on the wrong e-mail account. Interestingly, I contacted one of the people who was allegedly sending invitations and they told me they did not have a linked in account.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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I can help you out with this.
Just PM me your PayPal details ...
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No need to PM them, he can just post them as a reply to your message... 
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
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I got some "phishing" emails from senders who pretended to be PayPal: "Please update your card details etc etc so that an outsanding invoice can be processed.." with a link to a russian based server (.edu.ru). That was every day one mail (one day in bad french, one day in bad german) a few months ago. Now it calmed down.
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