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Marc Clifton wrote: What I'm getting at is, it seems like we're still in the stone ages when it comes to using computers to filter out the crap and alert us to when something that we have said we're actually interested in occurs
When AI reaches the level that it can correctly assess my mood to guess what I might want to read then I am going to be much more excited about the real robots running around (since they won't require that level of AI.)
Until then I will just have to continue to randomly and impulsively bumble throughout the day finding interesting stuff to read.
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jschell wrote: When AI reaches the level that it can correctly assess my mood to guess what I might want to read then I am going to be much more excited about the real robots running around (since they won't require that level of AI.)
Agreed, but that's not the goal.
jschell wrote: Until then I will just have to continue to randomly and impulsively bumble throughout the day finding interesting stuff to read.
The goal would be to provide you with more information than say, just the title of a post, to make your bumbling more efficient. 
Marc
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CodeProject.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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I am thinking of looking for a new job. This is hideous
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The thinking is hideous?
Or are you looking for a hideous job?
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Please don't swear at me - this is the Lounge.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Yes, that's hideous!
(are there no end users that could do that when the product is shipped?  )
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The problem is...it's going to take a month or more to find a job, work out your notice and start your new job.
And all that time you will be doing the thing that drove you to leave (along with any other nasty jobs that come up, since you are leaving anyway).
So you will be starting the new job about the same time that you'd be getting into something more interesting in your current one, wouldn't you?
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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This is true. In the meantime the business could decide that UI test automation is a complete and utter waste of time and effort and money
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And the new company could decide that since you already know how to do it it's got to be worth a try... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I used to use Crystal Reports in the 90s and it was on my CV which I have not updated in a decade. I recently got a job offer in Sydney doing CR in VB.net, be careful what you wish for!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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If you've got the right tools, I've found it can be quite fun. But if you're doing it manually, yeah, that is hideous.
I had fun writing some custom code for testing WPF UI's recently. Took me down quite a few interesting rabbit holes which confirmed in my mind how poorly architected WPF actually is, but regardless, I got the UI test automation working in its own thread without any nasty "Sleep" calls. It's a solid testing framework and I'm quite proud of it actually.
Marc
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WPF I could probably cope with - this is HTML/ASP.net (which I have no experience in whatsoever)
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RugbyLeague wrote: this is HTML/ASP.net
Yum. Working with Cucumber/Capybara in Ruby on Rails is pretty cool. There's some equivalent (I'd give you a link but my google-fu is lacking at the moment) for ASP.NET integration testing that, if I did ASP.NET development, I would definitely look into. What tools are you guys using?
Marc
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RugbyLeague wrote: Selenium/Gherkin
Ah yes, that's what I was thinking of.
Marc
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Many moons ago, before white man come kill all buffalo...
~~~ :wavy hand thing: ~~~
Some bright numptous brain decided to write an autotesting hook for our UI. It required hooks to be added into myriad different places in the code base - which obliviously went undocumented and so didn't get added in.
The idea was that they could build a test version of the front end container that would use all these hooks for auto testing.
... except testing needed to be done against the release build
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I am too. I am trying to figure out why this isn't QA's job. What is their job anyway?
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Pualee wrote: I am trying to figure out why this isn't QA's job. What is their job anyway?
To publicise your results.
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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I'm desperately trying to find a down vote link for that! 
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Is anybody here watching this show? It is on AMC, Sunday nights in the US.
It is loosely based on the birth of the Compaq portable IBM PC clone in the early 80s. Set in Texas.
I am finding it extremely fun to identify with engineers and software nerds on tv.
It is, of course, not a 100% match to the 80s experience, but I am finding it pretty good fun and no-one to talk to about it.
Anybody else? What do you think?
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Nope, never heard of it.
If it hits this side of the pond, I might catch it.
But...I miss the old Assembler instructions: HCF, XPI, CAI, WJP, RPI
For the young, a translation. These were Machine Code instructions which executed directly on processors (in this case IBM) in big mainframe computers. Generally three letters, they were acronyms for memorable phrases.
HCF Halt and Catch Fire
XPI eXecute Programmer Immediate
CAI Corrupt Accounting Information
WJP Write and Jam Printer
RPP Read Printer Paper
Regrettably, we don't have direct access to all of these any more.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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The RCA CDP 1802 had the SEX (Set X) command.
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