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Can anyone tell me what the point of this is? I've just moved into a new house and three of the bathroom lights won't work. Reason being that in the path to each is an inline 12v 60VA transformer which is blown.
The bulbs are 20w, so why not just use mains? They're in the ceiling so I can't see bathroom safety being the point. Just more to go wrong.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Probably the IEEE wiring regulations. You could always check the what the rules are. 17th edition is the current one.
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Thank you. That explains it, regulation. Madness.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Rob Philpott wrote: That explains it
It does if the lights are in the bath or shower and may be exposed to accidental immersion. If not the 12v is not mandatory but RCD may be.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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I didn't expect a section called "IP Numbers" in the electrical wiring guide. Maybe that's because English is not my native language. 
Still, I find this quite funny:
On reffered page: Equipment with no IP number must not be used in Zones 0, 1 or 2, or in any other wet or damp location.
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At least it's keeping clumsy do-it-yourself-even-though-you-have-no-f***ing-idea-what-the-f***-you-are-doing dumbfucks from electrocuting themselves... 
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I'll get back to you about that next week - if I'm not in hospital.
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Rob Philpott.
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LOL - Good luck! 
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It's a Elf & Softy thing: Bathroom lighting regulations[^] - it's easier and cheaper to use low voltage than buy high-IP rating fittings.
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I don't know what the wiring regulations are in UK. In WA (Western Australia) all houses require residual current devices (RCD's) on all circuits so the use of 12v lighting has nothing to do with safety. 12v Halogen lighting became a fashion because of the light quality and the ability to shoot beams to wherever desired. They generate a lot of heat and are responsible for many house fires particularly when covered in the ceiling by roofing insulation. These are now being supplanted by 12v led lighting which is way more efficient and does not generate so much heat. Even though the globes may be very alike halogen 12v uses AC while LED 12v uses DC.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Here' in sunny Qld it's illegal to do any wiring if you're not an electrician - but if it's low voltage you can go for it - so I think some houses wire up with low voltage so they can DIY (our previous house did).
Bloody silly idea if you ask me
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I once got an advice from an electrician, he said that halogen lamps breaks very quick when they are directly connected to mains (here 230-240 Volts). The general advice was to use the 12 Volt lamps, and a transformer. The lamps lasts forever. But the transformer may break, especially if it's too close to a halogen lamp. The transformers can't take too much heat.
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"Some alternative to every voting system, before right enters the legal bar, measure this contract requirement!"(5,5)
Not too hard I think.
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I believe you are correct - but you need to give the solution as well...
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He's back!! 
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Front!!
And two sides!!
But his wheels are still in Manchester, as is his wallet...
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Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Small Print
Some alternative - SM
every - all
voting system before - p (from poll)
before right - r
enters the legal bar - int (intern?)
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I think it's a misplaced comma:
right enters R
the legal bar, measure PINT
PRINT
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Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Are you saying the clue is wrong? How are we supposed to get the answer if the clue is wrong!
That's my excuse anyway. 
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I will start this discussion knowing that it is not really meant for the lounge entirely but it seems easier as to the objective I have .
I thought to raise a question but I know full well that if your wording is not right or it is not really a question you might just get burned by the unholy flames some of CP question master will call down on your pathetic attempt at a question 
So my question is as follows, is there at all an easier way to get the values to display that Acrobat reader puts as value holders in a pdf? I got this project that has already all the coded values in the pdf but of course I am not 100% sure where exactly the values are, so without a legal copy of Acrobat reader I am unable to see the coded value holders of each item.
Has anyone by any chance have a way around this or know what I can google for without getting useless results like this[‹ ]?
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Ask here: http://www.codeproject.com/Questions/ask.aspx[^] perhaps?
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Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I did not know how the phrase it exactly but i think i got it now phrased correctly 
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