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Before my accident I would run 13 miles a day. I was svelte according to my driver's license picture. Now I a resigned to cycling which isn't nearly as challenging per unit time. (I have also Gained 50lbs).
My pace is usually between 8:30 and 9:30 when running long distances. When I first got into running I found the biggest challenge was developing my heart ... so instead of running which is painful in itself, I used the treadmill incline feature, full incline, 3.5 mph or whatever your max walk speed (Without holding) and I spent a year until I could do 2 hours full walk full incline. Now I can focus my cardio activities on working through the muscle pain instead of the lack of cardio. As a bonus, 2 hours on incline WILL cause you to lose weight.
Background on weight loss,
Your body burns ADP from your cells or "sugar" during normal events. While YMMV the body stores about 45 minutes worth in the cells. After this threshold you have to switch to fat burning and release a lot of cholesterol into the blood stream. If you just stop after 45 or an hour, my theory is the cholesterol just settles where it is and eventually gets restored or clogs your arteries but after 1:15 it stabilizes and you are on full fat burn mode. You can feel this happening when you get ravenous while "walking". Every minute past this point is awesome for you!
But that is just my theory. Keep it up! When I was 27 I weighed nearly 300lbs, then I went to 170lbs with this approach (and a balanced diet). Persistence pays. And remember, no matter what people tell you, you are fat. All of my friends tell me how thin I am but I am obese by definition and by grabbing big ol rolls of fat. Telling myself that I am still fat, motivates me.
Really, I need to find a way to get back to the running. I just can't handle the back pain now : (
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That's an impressive weight loss, down to practically half your original weight!
Interesting your theory about cholesterol. My understanding is once you've exhausted your blood suger, the body starts to burn glycogen in the liver and only when that's exhausted does it start to burn fat. Presumably you're likely to feel like you do when fasting - fuzzy head and lethargic.
I suppose I am fat, 200lbs but then I'm 6"1 and quite wide and that helps carry it, butI have to say it doesn't bother me - its a sign of a good life!
Six months ago I couldn't even run for a minute (Why would I need to?) so its all progress!
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Your Glycogen in the Liver could explain the gap between 45 minutes and 1:15 were the hunger starts. (And even the "lull" in running at that time) After 1:15 you feel you can "go all day" at least until your body gives out : )
I am 6'2 and let me say, your life feels great at 170 with our height so don't be shy about wanting to go down ... in a healthy manner.
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I do 2 miles at 8mph as my warm up on the treadmill before killing myself trying to row. 
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: I do 2 miles at 8mph
Is that so you can make closing time at the local? 
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sure i could.
my legs would hurt like hell tomorrow, though.
i was once an avid runner, but the evil plantar fasciitis has ruined my feet.
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Back in the good old days when I was doing Judo 5 times a week and every morning before college I used to run, gently, about 3 miles around and through a wooded park with ups and downs changing altitude only around 20-30 feet during the run finishing with 5 minutes of squat-thrusts, bunny hops, sit-ups and push-ups. Then it was down to the local public pool for 20 lengths.
During this period of a few years I could run a mile without even breaking a sweat (except on a hot day), take a couple of deep breaths at the end of it and no longer be even breathing hard.
Since then, I have moved to the US, gained 100lbs and turned into someone who gets out of breath watching someone else running! This is why I don't watch any sports - it's too tiring!
I don't really miss the running or the swimming but I do miss the other things I was able to do at that time without any problem, squash, skiing, walking, mountain rescue and helping out my girlfriend teaching aerobics.
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Swimming would be a great thing to do (for me), but its probably the thing I feel least comfortable with in the world. It'd be fair to say I can't swim, I can move forward but only with a stupid amount of splashing and then I get out of breath and sink.
I don't really get self-conscious about much, but I do with this. My plan is to keep at the exercise to build up some stamina, then swallow the bitter pill and get some adult swimming lessons.
Something I should have learned 35 years ago really.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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At my best I did the infamous 42.195 km in about 3h25' (about 7'53" per mile).
THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?!
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That's good! I'm pretty sure it would be fatal for me to try such a thing though.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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I started back in 2009 with about 2 km. In 2013 I did my first (of two  ) marathon, thanks to our very Gary Wheeler, who told me something like: "if you can run 10 km then you can also run the half-marathon. If you can run the half one, then you can run the full marathon".
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I can, but I hate running and if I need to be a mile away I'd cycle it every time. Back when I was growing up I briefly had a spell of doing a timed mile run and I was about 9 minutes then, iirc.
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Rob Philpott wrote: How would you do?
If you mean run that all at once, I would probably have a heart attack.
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6 minutes if I want to feel like sh*t afterwards. It had better not be much longer than a mile.
Or 8 minutes and I won't really feel that tired and it could be a bit further.
But I have long legs and I'm still in my 20s, so I'm basically cheating.
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I run circles around a mile!
No, seriously. I write "mile" on a piece of paper, put it on the floor, and run circles around it.
One time I did 100 "miles". That was grueling. You know, all that handwriting... 
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I once ran two miles in eleven minutes.
The one thing I learned from it is never run two miles in eleven minutes.
Luckily, my knees are shot, so I'll never have to run again.
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Over a 5km distance (so just over 3 miles) I average about 3:30 per km and over 14km about 4:20 per km.
But I've been running for years, with swimming and cycling/mountain biking thrown in for good measure as well.
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I run when I know I'm gonna be late. 
Seriously, I don't run or jog frequently. I eat much (chocolates and more carbs), but what I really love is I never got fat. Maybe because I take the stairs every morning when going up to the office.
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I spend 2 sessions a week on treadmill. My best run so far was, 5.24K in 38 minutes. I think this is something tremendous because, When I did my very first 5K run, approximately 2 years back, It took me 1.3 hours.
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I think, over the last 67 years, my aggregate of running comes to a little short of a mile.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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Swinkaran wrote: When I did my very first 5K run, approximately 2 years back, It took me 1.3 hours.
That's an average speed of under 3mph. That's not a 'run', that's a 'walk'. Good stuff on the improvement though!
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Yep - Beth got me into running several years ago (her Dad's a triathlete!) and I now run most mornings.
My "happy distance" is about 4 miles (usually from our house through the Upper/Lower Gardens with a sprint finish to Bournemouth pier approach. Racing to the sea is something else!) but I've run up to 7.5 miles (that was awesome, but exhausting as I did it a bit too fast).
As others have said, 9 minutes a mile is a respectable time. To put it in perspective, I tend to run at 9:15-9:30 mins/mile over distance (though being on beta blockers for migraines doesn't help as it limits your heartrate), but my fastest mile is about 7:59 mins.
For me, the revelation was that running's awesome, and a great way to clear my head and think about stuff. I honestly never expected that.
Just be careful to head off any injuries (particularly in the knees, as they take ages to heal) by doing appropriate warm-ups and preparing the right muscle groups for the work you'll be asking them to do.
I injured my left knee last winter, and it stopped me dead for a while. When I finally reached a physio, he identified the problem right away - one of my quads was underdeveloped, causing a loose kneecap and resultant swelling. Ouch. Fortunately, some simple knee exercises have sorted it - but it took me 6 months to get back to running normally. Had I got into the habit of doing the right exercises, the injury probably wouldn't have happened in the first place...
But don't let the possibility of injuries put you off. Enjoy!
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I got into semi-serious running (I've done a couple of 10ks, half marathons, and marathons and I have an ultramarathon all the way up in Zermatt, Switzerland planned for this year) a while ago and I would guardedly recommend every developer to do something similar. It's been a wonderful stress reliever and head-clearer and it's kept me sane and (reasonably) fit over the years.
To be honest though as I age it gets to be less fun, and recovery takes longer etc. I recommend swimming as the best possible exercise for desk jockeys. it's excellent for coordination, meditative, builds breathing, rhythm and endurance, you can do it till you're 80 and it's kinda like getting a massage and a workout at the same time. 
I too dabbled in pacifism once.
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That's the speed I usually do my shortest running path of 4Km that make it at an average speed between 10 and 11 km/h.
So if I was set to run only 1.6km I could probably do it at 14km/h and stop 
But honestly I usually care much more about pace changes and actual overall running time than the speed itself.
I know that if I'm in a better shape I'll go naturally faster without actually thinking about it.
I usually run at the end of the day, always outside. So before starting I check myself. If I'm too tired or haven't eaten properly during the day I just skip it, otherwise I set a time or distance goal and run for it
Just a word of advise based on my personal experience:
0. Regularly check yourself up. It's pretty dangerous to start or restart doing sports without at least a general check up.
1. If you're running to burn, 9 minutes won't do you almost anything. Your body won't have time to start burning the "extra" stuff.
2. If you can't run more time, walk. But walk fast (usually 6 or 7km/h) and resume running when you feel like it. Repeat this as many times as you want. Like this you'll be able to "run" at least 30 min without any big issues and if you keep doing it you'll start running more and walking less. I find 1h of activity to be the minimum for me.
3. Have at least 2 types of running. Don't run every day at the same speed in the same "track". Set time intervals where you'll run faster. A good practice I used at the beginning was 1.5 minutes normal and 30 seconds faster. The more you get in shape the bigger will be the gap between slow and fast paces. This depends heavily on your body, make sure your heart beats are back to "normal" before starting the next sprint.
4. Sleep and rest. This is as important as training. Do not do it every day. Listen to your body.
5. Do multiple sports. I'm an heavy guy, even when I'm in shape and if I run everyday my kneed and hips start complaining. Alternating running with biking and swimming does the trick
Cheers!!!
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