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Terrible.
Outsourcing your server is a bad idea, and outsourcing the storage of sensitive information is an epic bad idea (think tax-information, banks, medical records, aw - the cloud-horrors that are still awaiting us!)
As soon as you outsource your server, you're no longer in control and depending on the other party.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Bearing in mind the grief we are having getting our network back up I am keeping all my source backed on my local hard drive, dropbox & memory sticks!! 
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Agreed 100%. There's no way I'm putting my private information in the 'cloud'. Bearing in mind the frequency that 'reputable' companies are admitted getting done over (adobe, ebay etc.), how long is it going to be before people are stealing far more than your password?
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: outsourcing the storage of sensitive information is an epic bad idea
But for the moment where all your local data is gone. In which case it might be quite interesting to have the data somewhere in the cloud.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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If your data is gone, ANY backup would do. Still, given the choice between a backup on somebody else's cloud (!) is a similar bad idea.
Back up on tape, and put it in the vault.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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You still have your local copy of your source code ?
I'd rather be phishing!
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Yes, only recent projects. I deleted the very old projects.
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First off, sorry for your losing source code.
If it is any consolation at least you still have the more recent code.
I find that I have copies of some very old projects but never go to look at them because they were done with older technology and offer little help with current projects. The more recent the project the more likely that it is done with a technology you are still using.
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Their notice is something of a gut-wrenching read. It's very sad that people have lost their work, but also that there is no longer a future for the company which although I'm not familiar with looks like its been up and running for a few years.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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I just read the statement on their site. That truly sucks Whoever is responsible is an absolutely bastard and a coward.
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer)
www.simonshugar.co.uk
"If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil
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Ouch, that sucketh.
But just more evidence that "no one else but you can keep your stuff safe".
I agree with the others that this whole "cloud" thing is a very bad idea.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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Keeping in cloud is redundancy against keeping them all on my home PC.
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Looking at my tiny TFS Express VM, which is quietly using 1.5 out of the 32GB of RAM on the multi-purpose VM host I put together for under $1000...
Looking at the external backup drive sitting next to it, which was last updated on Sunday (only because my source hasn't changed this week). Currently physically disconnected.
My offsite backup drive is a one-hour drive away.
No cloud here.
I like to think I'm doing ok.
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It is a good thing you have back-ups.
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Put your claws away Ennis!
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You mean the company you pay for this repository don't do backups? 
Change. Now. And demand your money back as well...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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They did. But those got deleted too 
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Yeah right - the "offsite backups" got trashed.
I don't know about you, but my offsite backups aren't connected to my main system once they have been written: they are the backups-of-last-resort and you can;t keep those in a vulnerable location.
What they mean is: "we don't do backups".
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Absolutely! One important part of my job is to setup backup plans for my clients.
If I had done things like they did, I would be fired now.
Typically, any one of my clients could undergo a fire, I would still be able to setup a new platform in a few hours.
This story is just such a shame.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who separate humankind in two distinct categories, and those who don't.
"I have two hobbies: breasts." DSK
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That's one of my problems with the cloud: you have no idea who is doing the actual storage, and what exactly they are doing. Do they backup? Or save money by hope-and-pray? What kind of people do they employ - apart from "the cheapest possible"? They will have total access to my data - so what are they going to do with it?
You may have guessed, I don't keep anything serious out there! 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Virtual Machines have greatly simplified backup tasks, I must confess.
Nowadays a reverse-incremental backup of a big server can take ten minutes when it needed hours before; and restorations of a full server are really trivial with virtual hardware abstraction layers.
That's why I can't understand that a company, whose job is to take care of the files of its users, does lose these files. That seems as odd to me as a fiscal administration who would lose your informations; that can't happen. And yet, it does...
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who separate humankind in two distinct categories, and those who don't.
"I have two hobbies: breasts." DSK
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There is no guarantee it won't happen at another company. I should have chosen the option to pay monthly, instead of annually. My yearly subscription ends at October. I'll see if I can get my remaining money back.
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That should teach you all that USB drives, Private NAS drives and other personal backup / repositories were a good idea and that the cloud is a bad idea.
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The issue is not the cloud. The issue is trusting a single backup location (and I count "the cloud" as such). If you really care about backups, you should have different backup locations. And a cloud backup can still be a good choice for that as long as you still have your own copy somewhere.
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In the case of the cloud, different backup locations has to be different cloud providers not just different data centers from the same company. If CodeSpaces had maintained backups with Microsoft, Google, Rackspace, or etc having their Amazon ECS account compromised and nuked would not have brought them down permanently.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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