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Stuart Dootson10-Jun-14 3:25

Stuart Dootson

10-Jun-14 3:25

You're likely to find some issues because you're moving from pre-98 Standard C++ to C++ 11(ish) if you're going to migrate to VS2013... I started developing a project with VC6 back in 2001/2 that I've maintained ever since. It moved to VS2003 in 2005, VS2008 in 2010, VS2010 in 2012 and to VS2013 in the last month. I had the most problems moving from VC6 to VS2003, but after that, VS2010 to VS2013 had the most issues, all due to improved C++ standards compliance. Oh - and some deprecated Platform SDK / C runtime functions - but those deprecation warnings can be turned off with macros (or you can modify your code to conform with the warnings, of course).

However...take a copy of the project. Open it in VS2013. Rebuild. Fix compile errors. Rinse & repeat... Just do it, I suspect it'll be easier than you might think.

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Dan Neely10-Jun-14 4:30

10-Jun-14 4:30

Jump directly to the latest? I was thinking in terms of walking up my collection of installed versions of VS incrementally upgrading as I go: 03, 08, 10; newer'd depend on either customer requests or getting past team mates balking at 12 as a 1.0 version and not wanting to install 13 because without a need for it keeping R#er while avoiding a fight with bean counters (not relevant for C++) and just not wanting to install another version that will then become part of the stack we need to keep installed forever more due to legacy apps we're on call for but otherwise have no update budget/mandate (this one really bugs me too). Sigh | :sigh:

Edit: A big part of why I'm thinking incrementally is that, assuming it's a VC6 (or prior) project and that none of my packratty coworkers have an MSDN cd with that version on it, initially targetting 2003 would be the quickest path to a working build.

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patbob10-Jun-14 4:57

patbob

10-Jun-14 4:57

Dan Neely wrote:
Jump directly to the latest? I was thinking in terms of walking up my collection of installed versions of VS incrementally upgrading as I go: 03, 08, 10;

Each version will introduce its own set of things that needs to be fixed. Having worked on a VC++ project that we took from 6.0 through to 2008 through the years, my gut feel is that your way will create extra work. The source isn't the only thing that needs updating, sometimes the project files do too.

The only benefit I can see of doing an incremental upgrade is if you also install the docs and can get some value out of their upgrade guides. Those have had helpful hints like the #define mentioned. I think sometimes the older info gets lost in newer rewrites.

We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

Stuart Dootson10-Jun-14 5:55

Stuart Dootson

10-Jun-14 5:55

I'd be tempted to go straight to your ultimate target version (whether that be VS2010, 2012 or 2013) with a **COPY** of the solution. If you find any really difficult problems, then you could try going via intermediate versions in the hope that the errors along the way will be lesser.

Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p

CodeProject MVP for 2010 - who'd'a thunk it!

Dan Neely10-Jun-14 6:02

10-Jun-14 6:02

Source control means having arbitrarily many copies. Cool | :cool:

basementman10-Jun-14 4:26

basementman

10-Jun-14 4:26

You probably will need to add _CRT_SECURE_NO_WARNINGS;_CRT_NON_CONFORMING_SWPRINTFS; to your preprocessor defs to get it to compile without warnings.

onwards and upwards...

Dan Neely10-Jun-14 4:31

10-Jun-14 4:31

Are those actually fixing anything; or are they just rollups for disabling a bunch of warnings to greenwash the compiler output?

basementman10-Jun-14 4:35

basementman

10-Jun-14 4:35

Disables warnings for "non-secure" functions such as strcpy, strcat, sprintf, etc. that have been "deprecated" due to the MS secure initiative, pushing people to strcat_s that is length validated to help prevent buffer overflows. These didn't exist in VC6.

onwards and upwards...

Dan Neely10-Jun-14 4:36

10-Jun-14 4:36

Assuming we end up on contract for anything beyond a minimal make it run on w7 update I suspect making those substitutions will be an IA requirement we'll be expected to meet.

Rick Mayal, dead!

Munchies_Matt9-Jun-14 7:16

9-Jun-14 7:16

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2653004/Rik-Mayall-dead-age-56.html[^]

There goes a comedy icon. Thanks for the great laughs Rick!

"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold

Richard Deeming9-Jun-14 7:22

Richard Deeming

9-Jun-14 7:22

No! You'll be telling me that Leslie Nielsen[^] is dead next! Poke tongue | ;-P

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- Homer

Munchies_Matt9-Jun-14 7:39

9-Jun-14 7:39

I forgot he was in a coma. That explains the heart attack, you don't get much exercise lying in bed.

"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold

The_Slurm10-Jun-14 0:25

The_Slurm

10-Jun-14 0:25

He had a quad biking accident 16 years ago which left him in a coma for 5 days. He recovered from that albeit with epilepsy. I suspect the sudden death was related to tht as opposed to a heart attack.

Munchies_Matt10-Jun-14 4:25

10-Jun-14 4:25

They now think it was a fit of some kind.

"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold

_Maxxx_9-Jun-14 15:26

_Maxxx_

9-Jun-14 15:26

I hope he is

Quote:
on the last freedom moped out of Nowhere City, and we haven't even told our parents what time we'll be back

I have to share this:

Munchies_Matt9-Jun-14 6:19

9-Jun-14 6:19

I just read this on a forum, the guy is talking about a part of south London, the Elephant and Castle, E&C, its hysterical:

"Come on big Jim, its so rough down there that the Elephant and Castle has twinned with Damascus. I heard community policing down there is done via a helicopter and a bungee rope!!!!!! Even the police dogs need counselling.

I was in a rare pub down there years ago and an American tourist commented on the quaintness of 'Ye Olde English ' look with all the saw dust spread everywhere. "Quaintness" said the landlord , that's what's left of the furniture after a punch up last night.

Any straying tourist (like Kevin Spacey did one night)would get the impression dogs grow on trees in Burgess Park but it's pit bull terriers going through jaw strengthening routines hanging off branches by their teeth !!!!!

Again it's so rough there that 'Mothercare' in the shopping centre had to hire 'bouncers'.

Putin has a video of him walking down the Old Kent Road to the Heygate late at night on his own. But everyone knew is was faked as he aint that tough. "

Brilliant, utter genius! Big Grin | :-D

"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold

OriginalGriff9-Jun-14 6:25

OriginalGriff

9-Jun-14 6:25

I love the bit from QI (I think, might have been "Mock the Week) when they were discussing towns official catchphrases:
"Tower Hamlets: Lets..."

"Get Out Alive"?

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Richard MacCutchan9-Jun-14 6:31

9-Jun-14 6:31

Munchies_Matt wrote:
its hysterical

Munchies_Matt wrote:
Brilliant, utter genius!

Really?

Duncan Edwards Jones9-Jun-14 6:33

Duncan Edwards Jones

9-Jun-14 6:33

..I guess you had to have been there.

Munchies_Matt9-Jun-14 6:51

9-Jun-14 6:51

Or need a sense of humour....

"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold

Richard MacCutchan9-Jun-14 7:00

9-Jun-14 7:00

Munchies_Matt wrote:
Or need a sense of humour.

I have one; I just cannot see anything remotely funny in those statements. And yes I do know where Elephant & Castle is, my son used to live there.

Mycroft Holmes9-Jun-14 14:27

Mycroft Holmes

9-Jun-14 14:27

Richard MacCutchan wrote:
my son used to live there

Reality tends to leach the funny out of some humor, poking fun at somewhere from the outside is only humorous to those on the outside.

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH

Richard MacCutchan9-Jun-14 20:55

9-Jun-14 20:55

It's nothing to do with the place, I just did not find anything remotely funny in any of those statements. But it seems my not being amused by this post is considered sacrilege by some.

Munchies_Matt10-Jun-14 5:14

10-Jun-14 5:14

How about Red Dwarf, Bottom, do you find those funny?

Any one of those lines would generate a laugh in either of those programs.

For example, when Red Dwarf goes to red alert, Kryton says, 'are you sure sir? It does mean changing the light bulb'.

I find Red Dwarf and Bottom funny. And so do many other millions of people.

"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold

Richard MacCutchan10-Jun-14 5:20