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Iain Clarke, Warrior Programmer wrote: PSPP, an open source replacement for SPSS.
Is the P<->S change deliberate ?
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Rage wrote: Is the P<->S change deliberate ?
I'm sure it's a complete coincidence. Nothing to see here, move along...
Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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Open source.... Probably one of the best ways to learn about something!!
Thanks
Any recommendations on what else to learn to better work with statistical analysis?
There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Colin Powell
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I told an analyst at our company about PSPP, and her comment was that it's lacking functionality compared to SPSS for our needs. Thereby not said it's not enough for you.
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Cool... How did I not see that... :P
Thx
There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Colin Powell
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Well you had six other threads to read first before you came to mine. 
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I'm trying to keep the conversation going and to vote up on the stuff that is adding more knowledge.
There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Colin Powell
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Statisticians use R, claim it's complete, then hand it to me to "code" into a system. Except ... R is documented, specifically, to not be able to be run programmatically. My R based systems are the buggiest I have.
Oh, and just imagine trying to install all of the required libraries through a firewall! One at a time! UGH. Just tell me the functions and I can write them, sheesh.
BTW, on topic, the Closest thing I use is Aforge.NET.
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I've never heard about this Aforge.net.. Just had a quick look at it and it sounds like a nice option
Is its focus on images or is there more flexibility to it?
Thank you
There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Colin Powell
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Would Rcpp or RInside help in this situation?
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R is scripting language but mostly it is open source library of statistical tests with charting capabilities.It is easy to learn and use. Few lines of "code" (mostly calling library functions) will produce desired answer from simple descriptive stats to complex machine learning tests, signal processing etc. There are more than 4000 packages developed by individuals or universities with documentation. R is easiest to start. Python is slightly more complex and has extensive libraries as well. As with all statistics what really counts is to know which test applies to given problem and what to do with the test results. Both R and Python have lots of free information on the web and extensive literature in bookstores (Amazon).
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 Cool, it is interesting to see someone talking about R as being the easier one to start with any studies. I might have to look more into R to check that...
I agree with the knowlwdge thing, I'm already enrolled for a statistics course to see if I can get a better grasp on how/why to do the test.
Thanks!
There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Colin Powell
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R doesn't do any stats stuff but there are well tested standard packages (libraries) that do. I've used some R in my job and it's fairly easy to work with, and for any vaguely standard stats the packages will just do it for you.
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Oh, I forgot to mention Stata[^].
It feels outdated but is quite capable.
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Some people already mentioned it, but I will mention it again, SPSS. I've used it at my University.
I still get nightmares from it, but that's probably because I'm allergic to math 
It's an OO world.
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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Minitab. It is one of the most common statistical analysis softwares. It is used heavily in engineering and six sigma. It is also a very common statistics software in colleges.
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I feel like adding my .02
Worked at insurance company for years in SAS. It wasn't horrible as some propose but it does have some serious limitations. The company mainly needed a reporting tool. Should have used something else. SSRS maybe?
Worked at a college for many many years. SPSS, SAS and some stupid reporting tool called WebFocus (Biggest piece of garbage I have ever, ever had to deal with) We ended up writing our own modules in C for most of what we needed.
Worked at Commodities trading for a few years, WebFocus for reporting (Did I say biggest POS ever!)
Used parts of Mathematica or parts of F# for some serious math in there. It just worked.
I know this wasn't about reporting buttttt...
anyhoo SAS not horrible, SPSS barely works, Mathematica works.
Thanks
To err is human to really mess up you need a computer
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Cool,
It's nice to know you have a big array of software knowledge in your belt.
No worries, in most cases it will end up on reports... lol... How did F# performed? Was it easy to learn? And how was Mathematica?
regards
There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Colin Powell
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What are you trying to do? If you just want to run some analysis on some data you already have, then SPSS is probably your best bet, although it is expensive (if you're at college then there's a good chance they'll have a license). If you want to include some stats tests in something you're writing then it really depends on what tests you need to include.
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Hi Christopher,
I'm actually trying gather as many ideas and points of view as possible.
This is a field that interest me and I would like to study the subject, maybe even run some experiments. who know... 
I thought that I would have to do something from scratch, but it appears that there are quite a few tools ready to be used. Unfortunately my university doesn't have any "agreement" to provide licenses for SPSS
Regards
There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Colin Powell
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I wasn't so much thinking that your university would have an agreement to provide you with a license for SPSS, but more that someone would have a copy you could use - but that would only really have been useful if you had a specific data set you wanted to analyse.
A program that's widely used in biological sciences is Prism Graphpad. I've not used it myself, but my understanding is that it's quite straightforward (in contrast to SPSS, for example, which has a pretty step learning curve) and Prism provide a fully functioning 30 demo that you can download for free.
Once you've familiarised yourself with some of the tests then the best way to really learn about them would be to code them yourself!
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Oh, they have partnership with some software companies, so my mind jumped straight to that. I'll have to check if someone has a copy.
Thanks for all the advice, I'm not sure if Prism is the one, but it is worth a shot..
There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Colin Powell
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http://sourceforge.net/projects/pspp4windows/[^]
Here is an open source SPSS clone that is very powerful. You may want to evaluate it. There are multiple environments.
"Courtesy is the product of a mature, disciplined mind ... ridicule is lack of the same - DPM"
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Hi,
Thx for the reply. One of the guys has already mentioned it.
It truly looks quite good. 
Regards
There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Colin Powell
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