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Thanks for the information. When I manage to upgrade the hardware, I'll give it a try.
Charles Wolfe
C. Wolfe Software Engineering
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Huh? I read that there is a large industry shipping barrels from the U.S. to Jamaica but I am curious if the reverse is also easily possible. There are some things that I would like to, um, import. (Legal, I just wrote it like that for fun) Any one live there and know if that is a service? All the Google-Fu is for U.S. to Jamaica not the reverse and I don't want to actually pick up the phone and call someone!
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote: pick up the phone and call someone
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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Hey this is the Internet age, asking questions in forums is so much easier!
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote: Hey this is the Internet age
If it makes you feel better you could use an IP phone or a softphone.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Just for that when my site is fully operational I am disabling your email from the discount codes : )
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Jokes on you. I don't want to buy any barrels.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Lol, nah custom roasted coffee. It's actually fun to roast coffee, surprisingly. Unfortunately, I spend more time working on back-end code than the website. Eventually I will have to fix it if I ever want to go prime time. Someone where I work said he wanted Blue Mountain coffee so I have been looking around to find an importer but most places I can find it aren't selling at import rates if you know what I mean.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote: if the reverse is also easily possible.
They probably have to make something out of the empty barrels, so shipping back is certainly possible.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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"You want fries with that?"
I'm here all week, folks! Try the veal, it's to die for.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I was getting prices for dev tools for my possible new job, and I couldn't believe my eyes - Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate about $13.3k. HOLY CRAP!
I remember when the most expensive MSDN subscription was just $700, and included ALL Microsoft software products, and that was when they actually pressed CDs to deliver and update it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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And cheap at half the price!
Well, no - it'd be cheap at 1/20th the price...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Visual Studio 2012 Professional: $499
Visual Studio 2012 Professional with MSDN: $799
Visual Studio 2012 Premium with MSDN: $2,569
Visual Studio 2012 Ultimate with MSDN: $4,249
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You see that, in the distance? The small, bright, thing? That's the point, and you've missed it.
Not so very long ago you could pay MS $700 for an MSDN subscription and get actual physical disks with pretty much all the software MS produced. Now you have to pay $13.3K for less (for example on the old full subscription you'd get all the current Windows flavours, not just server).
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SharpDevelop: £0
But yeah that's not the point, really.
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I'm just curious: Why do you need to pay that by yourself?
Around here it is common that the Employer does offer the Computer & Software needed to get the job done.
I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.
How to ask a question
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I didn't say I had to pay that - I said I was gathering a list of dev tools I needed for the job. That list will be given to the company to buy.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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That's not a fair comparison though. You get so much more for your MSDN money now. I believe it's called bankruptcy.
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You may not need Ultimate. A lot of people get that but don't really use Ultimate specific features.
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THAT.IS.NOT.THE.POINT.
The point is that you pay almost 20 times as much for less tangible product (and with no improvement in support, but that's a topic for another thread).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Well, for a corporate company, 13,000 an year for Visual Studio, SQL Server, Windows OSes (including server editions), Office, BizTalk, SharePoint etc. is not that bad a deal in my opinion. It's probably less than 15% of an average software developer's salary.
It is expensive if you are a small startup, but they've got special pricing for startups (forgot the name of the program you needed to sign up to).
Not trying to counter your point here, but just looking at it from a different perspective. 
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Nish Sivakumar wrote: It's probably less than 15% of an average software developer's salary.
Gizza Job.
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