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I am staying with XP even at home for 3 reasons. First, cost of upgrading the hardware: Laptop requires at least another gig of RAM; desktop 1, 2 gigs or more; desktop 2 new CPU and so forth. Second, I have consulting clients who are running applications written using Visual Studio 2003. Neither Win 7 nor 8 will allow the installation of VS 2003. Upgrading several hundred thousand lines of VS2003, even to VS2010, is not a trivial undertaking. A third reason is common to many users: older peripheral devices for which there are probably no new drivers, for example: scanner, plotter, CNC machines, and various pieces of RS232 laboratory equipment.
Charles Wolfe
C. Wolfe Software Engineering
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A tip:
I use to have your same issue with VS 2005 and 2008 for windows mobile development... if you need to install it on a win7 pc, first intall Win XP mode (it's a legal WinXP SP3 image), then you can run XP in Virtual machine or run the application in XP mode. I know, it's a little stupid to lose resources runing a virtual machine but at least your will be able to run Visual Studio. (that PC must be 8GB ram or more for better performance)
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Thanks for the information. When I manage to upgrade the hardware, I'll give it a try.
Charles Wolfe
C. Wolfe Software Engineering
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Huh? I read that there is a large industry shipping barrels from the U.S. to Jamaica but I am curious if the reverse is also easily possible. There are some things that I would like to, um, import. (Legal, I just wrote it like that for fun) Any one live there and know if that is a service? All the Google-Fu is for U.S. to Jamaica not the reverse and I don't want to actually pick up the phone and call someone!
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote: pick up the phone and call someone
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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Hey this is the Internet age, asking questions in forums is so much easier!
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote: Hey this is the Internet age If it makes you feel better you could use an IP phone or a softphone.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Just for that when my site is fully operational I am disabling your email from the discount codes : )
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Jokes on you. I don't want to buy any barrels.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Lol, nah custom roasted coffee. It's actually fun to roast coffee, surprisingly. Unfortunately, I spend more time working on back-end code than the website. Eventually I will have to fix it if I ever want to go prime time. Someone where I work said he wanted Blue Mountain coffee so I have been looking around to find an importer but most places I can find it aren't selling at import rates if you know what I mean.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote: if the reverse is also easily possible.
They probably have to make something out of the empty barrels, so shipping back is certainly possible.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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"You want fries with that?"
I'm here all week, folks! Try the veal, it's to die for.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I was getting prices for dev tools for my possible new job, and I couldn't believe my eyes - Visual Studio 2013 Ultimate about $13.3k. HOLY CRAP!
I remember when the most expensive MSDN subscription was just $700, and included ALL Microsoft software products, and that was when they actually pressed CDs to deliver and update it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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And cheap at half the price!
Well, no - it'd be cheap at 1/20th the price...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Visual Studio 2012 Professional: $499
Visual Studio 2012 Professional with MSDN: $799
Visual Studio 2012 Premium with MSDN: $2,569
Visual Studio 2012 Ultimate with MSDN: $4,249
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You see that, in the distance? The small, bright, thing? That's the point, and you've missed it.
Not so very long ago you could pay MS $700 for an MSDN subscription and get actual physical disks with pretty much all the software MS produced. Now you have to pay $13.3K for less (for example on the old full subscription you'd get all the current Windows flavours, not just server).
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SharpDevelop: £0
But yeah that's not the point, really.
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I'm just curious: Why do you need to pay that by yourself?
Around here it is common that the Employer does offer the Computer & Software needed to get the job done.
I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.
How to ask a question
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I didn't say I had to pay that - I said I was gathering a list of dev tools I needed for the job. That list will be given to the company to buy.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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That's not a fair comparison though. You get so much more for your MSDN money now. I believe it's called bankruptcy.
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You may not need Ultimate. A lot of people get that but don't really use Ultimate specific features.
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THAT.IS.NOT.THE.POINT.
The point is that you pay almost 20 times as much for less tangible product (and with no improvement in support, but that's a topic for another thread).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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