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Star Wars, Episode VII: Everything is Awesome! 
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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Ooo! Oooo! I know the theme tune![^]
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Stop it!
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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I can't.
Once it enters your ear, the only way to get it out is alcohol.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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So drink!
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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And now it's stuck in my head again.... Star Wars:Lego Version
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Star Wars has a long and veritable history of trying to throw people off the scent by using false titles. The original Star Wars was originally known as "Adventures of Luke Starkiller, As Taken From the Journal of the Whills, Saga 1"
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Quote: 8 years of college and can't program?
I would expect that someone who takes 8 years to get through college can barely tie their own shoes.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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People always ask why I wear loafers. 
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GrumbleDuke wrote: What are shoes?
Ah, I see you went to community college.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Unless, of course, you are putting yourself through school and only able to afford to go part-time.
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newton.saber wrote: 8 years
I went to college too, but it took me only 2 years to finish...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: but it took me only 2 years to finish...
Being kicked out and permanently banned from an university does not count. 
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College?! Not university... 
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: College?! Not university
Do those have a different meaning where you are at?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Yes. Definitely. Around here universities (5 or 6) are for theory and colleges (100) is much for learning how to do things de-facto...
Also a year in college cost about twice the price of a year in university. The final degree is the same (BA) but the real content is very different.
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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Hm. In the US they are interchangeable. Interesting.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Just to understand how colleges are rule here - in my crew (12) no one went to university...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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RyanDev wrote: In the US they are interchangeable
Ehhhh... not exactly. A University is made up of colleges. The College of Engineering, College of Liberal Arts and Sciences, College of Business, College of Law, etc...
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Ehhhh... not exactly
Yes. But people still say, "I'm going to college" way more than "I'm going to university." In fact, I can't recall ever hearing anyone saying, "after high school, I'm going to university."
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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True
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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When I spent a year as a high school senior in Minn. a long time ago (75-76), my classmates were certainly considering going to the University or to a college - often referred to as a "community college". Maybe things have changed in the 38 years since then, or maybe it varies from state to state.
Those community colleges did award bachelor degrees, master degrees were far less common. The education was generally viewed as less academic, much more applied science.
Here in Norway, we distinguish between universities and "høgskole" (which literally translates to "High School", but you start høgskole education after 13 years of general schooling). Similar to what Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter tells, høgskole education teach you how to do things properly, rather than do develop new theories , and the education is shorter: Up until a few years ago, you could choose between a two-year and a three-year program. Today, only the three year program is offered. In engineering diciplines, a University education will take you five years. If you continue to a Ph.D, it will typically take you another two to three years, for a total of eight years.
Re. the headline and original post: It is commonly said here in Norway that a høgskole educated engineer can be put to productive work immediately, while a university educated engineer won't be of any real value for your company for the first year after he completes his education. (However, the university guy usually has a much higher long term potential.) I guess this is another phrasing of what newton.saber says.
In my study days, I postponed my last year of study, working for 14 months, so I believe I was of use to my first (post-degree) employer from day one. (Actually, it was the same company I worked for during those 14 months.) But I would like to mention that going back to university after 14 months of work exprience raised a lot of questions in me about the usability of the stuff we worked with the last year. It didn't seem very essential to the needs that I had learned during my working year.
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Interesting. Thanks.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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