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OriginalGriff wrote: bugs'n'sugs forum...
They have one?
I will never again mention that Dalek Dave was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel.
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It's called MSDN... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Hi,
oleg63 wrote: Would be good to have some feedback on this from the Microsoft, but it's not likely they read this forum.
You can find a list of changes to ATL/MFC on the Visual C++ Team blog[^].
oleg63 wrote: It would be just straight place where C++ programmers interested in modern looking GUI can read, contribute or ask the related questions.
Codeproject already has a C/C++/MFC forum[^].
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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Randor, thanks for the links, but what I meant is:
What we need are modern native technologies for real (desktop) applications.
And dedicated place for it, where C++ developers can get help on modern GUI, and start use it extensively.
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... strike again!
Thieves spend months digging 50ft tunnel under Tesco[^] and steal £80,000 from the cash machine, from underneath!
Now, I know they are criminals, and I know it's wrong, but...I can't help respecting that, and half hoping they get away with it... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I imagine that they would make more money per hour and with less labor flipping burgers.
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Minimum wage is £6.31ph, so a 50 hour week will earn you £315.50.
That's ~£6850 for 5 months, assuming they pay no NI contributions.
So...Provided they have 11 members or less (and I'd assume they did) they are up on the deal...
And that's assuming they can find a job giving them 50 hours every week rather than one of the company friendly "zero-hour" contracts.
Crime does pay, it seems...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Perhaps it's my aversion to hard labor that drove my earlier post.  However, risking ones freedom for that amount of money seems odd (yes I know there have been people killed for $2). If you're gonna do it, do it bigger than that.
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It's not that high a risk, really - the tunnel is underground, so they don't appear on CCTV anywhere, and you pick up nice fresh cash.
I'm sure it's more complex than that, but if your alternative is 50 hours a week in Burger Hell for sod-all ad infinitum I can see the attraction!
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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The workers at Tesco probably did it to get a raise
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Not a bad wage. Tax free, split that with 1 or 2 other people?
Marc
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Not bad at all, when you figure tax out of the equation - and I suspect criminals don't pay tax on their ill-gotten gains. 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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They do - but not to what we would consider the government.
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There is more chance of the money going back in to circulation in the hands of the thieves, also big business doesn't do Tax in the UK thanks to their chums in power
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In order to freely use a significant amount stolen money without raising suspicion, you have to slowly funnel the money back into the system using some sort of legitimate business that preferably provides services, so the forged sales transactions are hard to trace.
Or, you can get a middle man who funnels money in similar way, using multiple corrupt businesses owners, but then you pay a much higher rate than what you would normally pay as taxes if you gained that amount of money legally.
I learned all this from watching Breaking Bad.
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80k split between a number of people is not a significant amount of money!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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After all that work I kinda hope they get away with it too!
Politicians and CEO types do it all the time but with a brief case through the front door.
Along with Antimatter and Dark Matter they've discovered the existence of Doesn't Matter which appears to have no effect on the universe whatsoever!
Rich Tennant 5th Wave
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This bit stood out for me
'You may have seen people acting suspiciously on Friday night, possibly covered in soil.
Heard it on the radio last night & nearly fell over.
Regards, Stewart
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Cool plan eh?
I am surprised way more of these aren't carried out, it is a fairly obvious attack route.
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The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Oh look I have got a stalker. How pathetic.
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n. Someone who makes coffee
My morning executive flat white does seem to vary in quality. The coffee houses in London like to call the people who make them Baristas and apparently they have to undergo extensive training. The milk has to be just the right temperature you see, and as for the grinder, well, its so easy to get wrong.
There's even an Australian place where they only have Australian Baristas (racists!) because apparently they are the best in the world. To be fair, I've had coffee in Australia and it is exceptionally good if you overlook the fundamental fact that coffee is an awful, awful drink.
So, I was wondering opinions. Barista - overhyped nonsense or is there a real skill here?
And here's the worrying truth, I probably spend about £1000/year on coffee from Pret-a-Manger and I don't even like the stuff.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Rob Philpott wrote: And here's the worrying truth, I probably spend about £1000/year on coffee from Pret-a-Manger and I don't even like the stuff.
Have you heard of tea?
"baristas' is, I feel, a name made up to help people being paid shite wages to feel better about themselves.
I like coffee. I like it a lot and drink quite a bit (though mostly decaf these days) and the ones I make with instant taste the same, if not better, than a poncy, $3 coffee from Starfucks made by a spotty kid with attitude and tats.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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I have never understood decaf. That's not coffee, that's coffee flavour drink. It's like drinking non-alcoholic beer.
Decaf lattes with SOYA milk are a popular choice with the ladies these days. This is so far removed from being coffee I just don't understand it. I think people must like the idea of drinking something resembling coffee even though it totally isn't.
Humanity, it's not without its faults.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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