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If this was in the Soapbox I would say GW but I cannot do that in the Lounge. 
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Here's a clue, Fat Boy wants you to mention GW as refuting it has become his raison d'etre.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: Fat Boy wants you to mention GW as refuting it has become his raison d'etre
He doesn't believe in the Internet top-level domain of Guinea-Bissau?
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Ooh Ooh do I have time to get the popcorn before it all kicks off?
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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Do you think we somehow don't know what you're really getting at? 
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... or maybe we don't give an elephant.
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...yet you had to reply...
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Really, Keneysian Economics taught us that first.
But it is only now that that bad policy is slowly being allowed to be questioned.
The research didn't shape the policy, the Government needed backing for a predecided policy and made the scientist famous.
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Yeah, that's also common.
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Erudite_Eric wrote: I wonder what other corrupted science with a simplistic message has gone on to form govt policy for decades....
... the whole cholesterol myth that's kept the drug companies raking it in for years on the statin gravy train!
My logic is impeccable; my arithmetic lets me down.
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Yep. Corrupt science. Got to be really cynical about what you are told and think for yourself. Especialy about what interests the various prties have.
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Plausible explanation[^]
The only thing going against it as far as I can see is they still haven't found any wreckage, which I assume they would have done by now.
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Not necessarily: if he is right and the pilot turned it and the autopilot continued from there then it had 7 hours of fuel on board...that's a heck of a long way at 777 cruising speed, and you end up with such a massive area to search it's like trying to find a single seat cushion somewhere in France with a team of 100! Don't forget that if it crashed into the sea somewhere along that line, most of the plane is going to the bottom - only small floating items will be visible. And the currents / winds could take them a long way in a week.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I actually doubt this to be an accident.
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Problem is, no one has claimed responsibility. And that's unusual: I would have expected several groups to have said "we did it" by now if it was deliberate. But with total silence from the usual suspects, accident looks more and more likely.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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true, but if I was a terrorist I would make the families of those on the plane suffer as long as I could, so in that light, they might want to wait.
But as long as they don't find the thing, no one really knows...
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Terrorists don't care about the families: they want the fear that their existence and apparent abilities can generate - and they only get that via publicity. Without that fear they don't stand any chance of achieving their long term aims.
No attribution == no publicity == not worth doing as far as they are concerned!
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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You're awfully close to a terrorist mind it seems 
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Leave my wife out of this! 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I didn't see that one coming 
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V. wrote: but if I was a terrorist I would make the families of those on the plane suffer as long as I could, so in that light, they might want to wait.
Perhaps you would but that isn't how most or even all terrorists groups work.
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Not really. For example Aeroperu Flight 603 crashed on 2 October 1996 and it took 2 to 3 months to find the wreckage and the black box if i am not wrong. All it took was to use the right equipment. You can never say for sure how long it takes to find a airplane wreckage especially in water.
Ty NatGeo and Air Crash Investigation
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Sorry, this is the link I was trying to reference.
Shades of "Deep Lie" by Stewart Woods, copyright 1986.
Dave
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Lots have disappeared over the years[^]
Perhaps, like the Uruguayan plane in the 70's, the passengers are sitting in a remote are eating each other.
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