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emartinho wrote: When the mechanic tells them to check their oil in their car, do they say "well I'm not a mechanic/car expert"?
I certainly would! In fact I already had my license when I found out a car had oil even though it drives on something else! Only because a rented car was leaking oil... Luckily I was not the one who had to do anything about it!
And whenever I need to do something around the house involving screws, planks, nails, hammers, etc. I just don't.
Luckily we have experts for those kind of things so I don't have to know everything myself.
Imagine calling a doctor and him saying "Now stick your finger up your prostate and feel around. What's a prostate and how do you feel it? Sheesh! Is it too much to expect someone who uses his body on a regular basis to actually know something about it!?" 
It's an OO world.
public class Sander : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}
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Lucky you. The beater I learned to drive on needed weekly topup's of oil (almost a quart the thirsty POS), coolant, and power steering fluid (although my dad used transmission fluid for the latter because it was cheaper). Other beaters I drove before I could afford better needed break fluid checked weekly (to make sure it wasn't getting worse) and topped off at least once a month because of a hairline crack in the master cylinder, and a can of AC coolant every other month because of a slow leak that was too slow for leak finding dye and/or somewhere the dye wouldn't stick/show. Now the only maintenance I do is to top up the oil and tire pressure and to replace a few tail light bulbs (I refuse to pay someone $20 to spend 5 minutes turning giant wing nuts to pop in a $2 bulb).
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I teach my grandma to turn off the computer,open a browser ( yeah a browser, not the IE  ) and some other few things! Now I am the top expert of computers, I can solve anything, that is what she thinks about me
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The problem is "navigate" ... too many syllables for your user.
Syllables are to the brain
as cholesterol is to the vein.
(I know it makes no medical sense, but it rhymes!)
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I feel your pain!
OTOH, what percentage of car owners do you think check their oil levels on anything resembling a regular basis (my guess is substantially less than 50%), and what percentage of the remainder would even know how to do so? Ignorance is not confined to the IT sphere!
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If users knew what they do, I would be out of job... 
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EM,
You have it wrong...
If your mechanic told you it might be the settings on your MAF Sensor, to navigate to that,
and see if it is adjusted for high altitudes... You might balk too! (Because, everyone knows
that on your model of vehicle, you can get the Heads Up display in diagnostics mode by Opening the door,
3 times, with the key in the ignition, and one foot on the gas and brake, DUH...)
"Navigate to your document" ROTFLMAO.
From the user perspective: I have a 100GB HD, I have 675,000 files on it, and I KNOW I did not put more than 100 of them there. And since the LAST TECH IDIOT downloaded something in IE, I cannot find ANYTHING when I download it. How the heck does he expect me to find this ONE friggin document???
On the other hand:
With explorer open, right click on the document and choose "Open with Word"
Yes, I too had to learn to SLOW DOWN and listen more. I also build a GoToMeeting link into my software, and have them click on that, and give me control, so I don't shot them, because I don't
have time to walk them through a 5 minute task that will take them an HOUR with me directing them.
Andy why did I build the link into the software? Because I value my time and theirs!
Anyways, when you feel frustrated, they feel frustrated. So do what you do best. Find an easier way.
That is what I did in the end. Some users, no problem. But I Can quickly tell when a user feels helpless, and I offer to do it through remote control. Oh, and I take the time to tell them that the reason I use GTM is that it is safer than software that always gives access to me, this way, they have to be in front of the computer for me to connect and see their scree (which they have to agree to). That helps put them at ease.
Either you get paid to handle this, in which case, take the time to make it enjoyable.
Or this is costing you money because it is free support, in which case, take the time to make it stop,
or make it really quick and easy.
HTH
Kirk Out!
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I saw a clip on the news last night where in the US, to demonstrate it's getting pretty chilly, they threw some boiling water in the air only to have it fall to earth as snow.
Like a scene out of the dismal 'Day after tomorrow'.
Really? So it's going to drop 100c in a second and also dissipate it's latent heat to solidify in the space of a second flat in air - a very good heat insulator?
I'm having a very hard time accepting this. What says the CodeProject community?
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Quote: What says the CodeProject community?
Yes, it has been very cold.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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True, It's not a new experiment.
Remember that when you throw water, it will disperse in relatively small droplets and those will freeze quickly (and the steam coming out of it will hide the rest of the water not freezing).
I'd rather be phishing!
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MMMmmm, You are on to something but not totally I seem to remember a friend of mine (in Norway doing the same thing with non-boiling water the smaller droplets froze out right, the larger ones the surface froze and shattered(!) when it hit the ground, causing smaller droplets that froze and repeated the process until it just ran out of energy! and froze!. Too bloomin cold for me!! 
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glennPattonWork wrote: in Norway
Today we expect temperatures around 7°C - not exactly what you would require for this to happen ...
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True, very true, still 7'C is cold as far as I'm concerned I'm sure I should have been born in Jamaica
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I thought it rather sticked together via surface tension - hence why showerheads exist?
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Rob Philpott wrote: I thought it rather sticked together via surface tension
Not quite. If this was true for any amount of water in the presence of gravity then you could devise a way to overturn a bucketful of water from a tall building and have it fall onto the ground as a single blob. At some critical mass, gravity (and random molecule movement) takes over and then the lower energy state of the fluid as a whole is to split into two (or more) droplets.
The "other side of the coin" for the above statement is a leaky faucet. If you have a faucet that's giving a steady supply of water and slowly reduce the supply, at some point the surface tension is such that it's energetically favourable for the water to stop flowing as a "cylinder" and start flowing as a series of spheres (droplets). Actually, even in a showerhead, you can see that although the water comes out as a steady stream from each of the showerhead's holes, it becomes a series of droplets along the way.
So, throwing any sizeable amount of water in the air in the presence of Earth's gravity will turn said amount of water into droplets.
Φευ! Εδόμεθα υπό ρηννοσχήμων λύκων!
(Alas! We're devoured by lamb-guised wolves!)
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Not True.
My Nan says it's too cold to snow.
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If I hear another person say it's too cold to snow I'm going to send them outside, no gloves, no coat, no shoes, and ask them to take a good look around.
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oh my god, saying "it's too cold to snow" is like saying "I am not the boss of my company"
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Chris Maunder wrote: If I hear another person say it's too cold to snow I'm going to send them outside, no gloves, no coat, no shoes, and ask them to take a good look around.
That was what Dave C told me on my first day in Canada. That in winter it doesn't snow more when it's at its coldest. Never understood the thinking behind that.
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It happens because the maximum amount of water vapor air can hold goes down as it gets colder. That's why the heaviest snowfall is when it's only slightly below freezing; and why while states like Tennessee and North Carolina don't get as much total snow as we do in Pennsylvania or Ohio they're prone to occasional massive storms when the freeze line crashes into warm humid gulf air over their heads. OTOH because it blows around the dry powder that falls when it's colder can be more of a PITA because you have to keep shovelling it over and over again than the wet snow that will stay in place once it's down. On the gripping hand because most of Canada gets cold enough that the snow pack never melts off till spring the cumulative impact of lots of small snow storms when it's really cold still turns into really thick layers covering the ground everywhere.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Thanks, I believe Dave explained something similar to me. It makes sense when you think of it.
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It probably helped that you weren't suffering from culturethermal shock when I repeated it. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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True
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The flakes are smaller the colder it gets (not as sticky) and when it's been cold for a long time open bodies of water start freezing over so there's less fuel. And yeah, the absolute humidity is lower hence less water per cubic meter of air, but given a water supply it'll snow, especially if the wind is blowing. Lower water density, but more volume of air per second means lots of water still available to make your day a mess.
And this is e same Dave who wandered around downtown with me when it was -5C in a tshirt. I almost turned around and got back on the plane then and there.
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Chris Maunder wrote: And this is e same Dave who wandered around downtown with me when it was -5C in a tshirt. I almost turned around and got back on the plane then and there.
You sound like the wimps who thought I was out of my mind not wearing a coat on Tuesday; on your first day off the plane I'd've done the exact same thing except I'd also be wearing shorts (assuming I wasn't on my way too/from the office anyway). -5C is around the middle of my preferred temperature for shoveling snow; warm enough I can still get away with just a tshirt and denim shorts for a few hours, cool enough I don't need to worry about overheating because I'm working too hard. (The latter is bad because the amount of my shirt that gets soaked in sweat ends up too large and then turns into a giant heat sucker as it tries to evaporate and freeze at the same time.)
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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