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Simon Lee Shugar wrote: 2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point?
It never starts of like a project; it often happens when you want to try some code and keep adding.
"I've never solved the travelling salesman problem"
"Geocoding? Never heard of it, time to Google"
"Now how do I get the distance between two points?"
"It'd be cool if I could show that path on a map"
"Can I run this when I boot into Ubuntu?"
"That's weird, it doesn't compile anymore - where did those 40 compile-errors come from?"
..and just as you want to get some sleep, you look at the time and wonder if the sun is up already.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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I'm working on a web site for a local speed shop after hours (barter for labor on future planned work)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Simon Lee Shugar wrote: How often do you develop outside of work?
Not as often as I wish. Most of the time I have little to no available time (pun intended) to devote to any personal (or otherwise) pursuits outside of work an family.
Simon Lee Shugar wrote: Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point?
Generally personal. Though I have 2 projects I would like to promote commercially.
Simon Lee Shugar wrote: What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)
Games. Browser based (HTML5/Canvas/javascript) and tabletop (board games). Then again, my latest project was a life-sized drawing of a Barbie I made on the door of my daughters' room to use as a ruler for measuring their height progress. It's a Barbie drawing with a ruler on the side, where I mark each one's height and date measured. They're 4 and 2 years old now.
Φευ! Εδόμεθα υπό ρηννοσχήμων λύκων!
(Alas! We're devoured by lamb-guised wolves!)
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1. How often do you develop outside of work?
Not as often as I would like. I would love to spend more time developing and experimenting outside of the office. Most of my time at home is enjoying my time with my 2 year old.
2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point?
Most of the projects that I have worked on are personal. There are many things that we think about needing at home for our own use that I mess around with. Most recently I have been throwing together plans for my father in laws business. He needs an inventory and I am in the processing of getting a proposal together to share with him. If he likes it, I can make the basics and then keep improving it for him.
I know there are inventory apps out there, but this would be tailored to his needs specifically and only have what he needs.
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1. How often do you develop outside of work?
Whenever the mood strikes me. I have other non-computer hobbies to keep me sane which I sometimes spend time on, so computers is sort of sporadic.
2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point
Since I'll pick up a project, work on it for a while, and then set it aside uncompleted, nothing I do has any commercial value.
3. What do you like to work on outside of work? (other than the latest bottle of Gin)
Whatever strikes my fancy. I'm sort of ADD with technologies [3D printers, ohhhh] and I finally learned [kindle hacking, ohhhh] to let myself be that way [plate tectonic simulations, ohhhh] in my free time [artificial life simulation, ohhhh] so I can stay focused at work [Halbach arrays, ohhhh]. Absinthe.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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Simon Lee Shugar wrote: 1. How often do you develop outside of work?
I'm always working on outside projects. I was put on Earth to write a certain number of programs, however at my current rate, I will never die.
Simon Lee Shugar wrote: 2. Are the projects you work on personal or intended for commercial use at some point?
A bit of both. I like to work on projects that require skills I think I may be able to re-apply at work. Projects at work must function within a certain amount of time. Home projects can go into dead ends without consequence. I wrote some routines to recreate images from numbers that was years ahead of everyone else and then it languished for decades until an art restorer came across my web page documenting it. here[^] And that led to me getting back into it and just in time to know how to write a graphical document handler for work. Saved the company a boatload of money and saved me the aggravation of interfacing some third party product they wanted to go out and buy. The art restorer put me in contact with a professor who had develped the mathematics to reverse engineer the components of substances from FTIR scanners. I rewrote his Excel program to C# and mated it with a database to automatically suggest compounds to combine. We're still working on revising it and may eventually commercialize it, but I took it on because it was interesting and I figured some of the coding tech I learned to create it would usable at work. Turned out, just as I started it, work required parts I had already started to research.
Simon Lee Shugar wrote: 3. What do you like to work on outside of work?
Anything and everything. I've got a game I've been puttering around with since high school (35+ years) that I released a graphical rewrite of here[^] that still requires rewriting. When I first wrote it people did not trust computers and accused it of cheating. Nowadays they complain that I didn't let them trust the computer not to cheat. Times change. But I've got a bazillion MP3s that I want to clean up and de-dupe some day. I use those carousels to store my CD/DVDs in that I want to write a better management program for. Too many other projects to mention.
When I was teaching programming to career changing immigrants, I told them to find personal projects to work on. They were the best way to learn new techniques. Work tends to pigeonhole you and most companies I've worked with frown on you working on anything they don't see an immediate return on. At one company I got yelled at because I had developed an interrupt driven printer routine because they didn't see the advantage of it. After that company went out of business due to its inability to adapt to changing market forces, I was able to get a job doing conveyor systems that were heavily interrupt driven.
Personal interest is always a great motivator for improving your skills.
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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As an aside to the main topic...You code and build things because...you like to build things. It's fun. And creative. Other people never build things. They just sit in front of the TV and completely vegetate. They are called "consumers" (coach potatoes).
I think it's much better to be a Builder. It's a good thing!
- Grant
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I work 9-5 weekdays, and may then work on ToDoList[^] an additional 0-3 hours a night.
I often also work 3-6 hours on Saturdays, in between painting, yoga, reading and walking, and then a couple hours on Sunday evenings.
How much time I spend tends to relate to where I am in the release cycle (Pre-Alpha, Alpha, Beta, Bug Fixes), my level of enthusiasm, and how good the weather is  .
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Out to dinner with some Italians tonight!
I'm not sure what the correct etiquette is though. Should I expect bunga bunga and ask or should I politely wait to see if it is offered?
speramus in juniperus
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Just drop your keys in the bowl on the way in...
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Can't do that! The driver has them.
speramus in juniperus
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Drop her keys in as well then...do you have no imagination? 
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No, Mrs Wife is not the driver tonight. We are being driven. There will be dr[i|u]nk.
speramus in juniperus
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You are not at the same freebie as me are you?
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They said it was 'north', but I took that to be North London. That said, I did once go out for evening drinks and got home three days later.
speramus in juniperus
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Ah yes, I came off the platform one Tuesday morning and we all headed into the pub off the flight at around 9am. I got home on the Thursday and I only stayed about 1.5 miles away.
I was a little bit boozy...
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Oof!
Another good work related one was finishing an all nighter at work and going out for some breakfast. In the pub. Onto another pub around lunchtime. Then the afternoon in a different pub. Back to the first one in the evening, before heading off to a nightclub. We left the club around 2 and went to a second one before hitting a titty-bar around 4. Feeling peckish we went on for breakfast in a bar.
I left around 12 to go and meet my girlfriend. She said I looked "dishevelled"... 
speramus in juniperus
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That is ace.....
I struggle to go the marathon day after day sessions now. getting too old, but think I burnt myself out doing that in my earlier offshore days. Me and my 'BFF' were on the same shift together so we regularly did the 2 week sessions. The GFs were quite used to us both being in a permanent 'dishevelled' state. Amazing how a blue label smirnoff for breakfast soon kicks you back into life again 
My all time best was 19 days out of 21 days home on all-day/night sessions, this was on the weeks over christmas and new year. I went offshore on the 3rd January I think and took 5 days to stop shaking. Serious FUBAR after that stint.
Those days are thankfully well behind me now and at least a more sensible (in my books) approach is taken. Marriage, Kids, Kidney function, pickled livers all contributed to the slow down. Even this year I have stopped smoking and stopped drinking red bull. (except why someone forces me to have a couple of jagerbombs every now an then).
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My long runs are behind me too, for the same reasons. I look back to the 90's and think "how the feck did I survive?", I used to think it was funny that I could go into most of the posh bars in Budapest and the staff knew my name and my tipple of choice...
speramus in juniperus
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Ditto. We knew all the staff, the owners, all the bouncers. You could wander into town on your own and be guaranteed to run into someone you know and end up on another session.
I really miss those days. The 90's just rocked!
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Monday's had a special tradition. I'd go to the pub to watch the football and the landlord would give me my bill for the weekend. You could guess the size of it by the broadness of his grin.
When it broke 100,000ft [£300] he'd be laughing his tats off as he danced around the bar to present me with the damage. I always tried to pay up straight faced and without comment. And that was only one bar!
speramus in juniperus
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What's 'Bunga Bunga'?
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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That's left me a bit confused, but on balance it sounds like a good thing. I'd ask for it up front.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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As to the joke; when I heard it back in the 80s it was "bumba" (u as in put) and the punchline was "death by bumba".
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