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#17 
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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Me too but according to the survey I guess I should move. Just a side note - With all that's been going on the last few years here I didn't really need a survey.
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The Danes are smoking, drinking and eating fatty food like there is no tomorrow.
I think they're on to something.  
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES!
Abraham Lincoln
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: I think they're on to something.
FTFY
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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The survey is a little off as far as I can tell. Mexico is #16 and US is #17, if they're so freakin happy why are they all trying to come here?
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I did say it was highly accurate, how could they not be true?  They might have interviewed all the happy people staying behind in Mexico.
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TTFN - Kent
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You're right they had to be accurate, they must of interviewed people with jobs.
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They are bringing happiness to you... 
Veni, vidi, vici.
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1. The weather
2. The food
3. The women
Next question?
Will Rogers never met me.
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Veni, vidi, vici.
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CPallini wrote: Veni, vidi, vici.
Right.
Jealousy, obviously.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Quote: 1. The weather
2. The food
3. The women
Nope, doesn't compute: Italy should be at #1 then, instead it's at #45.
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They eat snails in Belgium.
That's all I have to say on the matter.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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They eat snails in England. http://www.snailfarm.org.uk/[^]
Apart from the aqueduct, the sanitation and the roads, it's one of the things that the Romans did for us!
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I didn't say that England doesn't have its share of nutters -- but nutter-being isn't a national institution.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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#110 Hungary - Come see our miserable mofus!
speramus in juniperus
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Belgium has chocolate. Great ones.
And mayo on the French fries, if I am correct.
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Am I the only one who keeps seeing these ridiculous articles about Microsoft dying, and reading only blindered screeds about how Microsoft's CONSUMER efforts are an utter failure, and wanting to scream, "LOOK AT THE ENTERPRISE MARKET, YOU MORONS!!!"?
Do these people have any clue how much the SMB market has invested in Microsoft's enterprise stuff, and CONTINUES to invest in their product set? And not only on the infrastructure side, i.e. Office/Sharepoint/Exchange - the platform's development stack as well! When many, many companies rely on your server OS running your web development stack backed by your relational database offering, to drive big, long-life-cycle LOB and web-facing applications, you are DOING PRETTY WELL.
Every business offering they make, they have legit competitors, no question. But no one can question that they are putting a TON of resources into improving those offerings, especially on the web side, where they have dumped a lot of time and effort into making ASP.Net a much better, more competitive offering. I really like Linux, and completely understand why it has the mindshare among the startup-type crowd. And Google is offering a compelling Office + Exchange alternative, especially for smaller setups. And SQL Server's got "NoSQL" on it's tail. But in all these cases, Microsoft is the Top Dog - and those competitors have had enough time to mature that it seems to me Microsoft still has the edge and the position of strength. I personally have worked off numerous platforms, but keep coming back to .Net because it's where the overall developer demand is, and where a lot of innovation is still taking place. Somebody with a bigger voice than me, PLEASE tell these Apple/Android idiots that whether or not Microsoft is loudly and publicly pushing "Consumer" over "Enterprise", AT LEAST GET YOUR ARGUMENTS RIGHT. Microsoft will die when somebody (or somebodies) takes away that ENTERPRISE play, NOT when they make a subpar tablet and can't sell it!!!
And all kids should get off my lawn. Thank you.
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Microsoft couldn't give a sh*t about
a. Enterprise Market
b. Developers.
As a Microsoft Developer for over 20 years, I'm afraid to say I developing for Android and looking at other frameworks.
I now own an Android Phone
I now use Ubuntu for my media Player
I'm buying a Sony Play Station
Had a good time with Microsoft and their excellent development tools, but its time to move on Microsoft don't care any more.
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I don't feel that's true though... I look at Azure, the newer features and more rapid release cycle for Visual Studio + Windows Server + SQL Server, and I believe they DO realize that they need to continually develop their enterprise product stack. They just can't seem to keep themselves from competing in areas they a) have strong competitors in, and b) often have no real experience in (shout-out to Zune, Bing, Danger - props to Xbox for being a general exception).
Those examples you cite are all those same CONSUMER market products they are showing a good deal of ineptitude in building a market presence with. It's not surprising you're not using a WP8 phone or a Zune, and Xbox and Playstation are both established enough it's a tossup as to which a gamer might prefer.
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Its true. Microsoft is not cool and you wont see many people using a Microsoft device in your local coffee shop but a huge amount of the technology and infrastructure that underpins our daily lives is powered by Microsoft and I don't see any appetite at all for the big enterprise projects currently using Microsoft to move to other technology stacks.
I read somewhere that maybe we would one day see the enterprise part of Microsoft devolved away from the consumer side. If that ever happened it feels to me like the enterprise part would be far the stronger company.
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I think it definitely would make sense for them to refocus and cut out/spin off the consumer stuff. It seems as if they've misread the Bring-Your-Own-Device movement within businesses as somehow a threat to their enterprise server offerings - but until Apple starts replacing Microsoft on data center servers, why does it matter what the device being used is? My iPhone and iPad, in Safari or in a native app, have NO IDEA what stack is pushing them content. The consumer has NO idea. So why in the world would Microsoft not push to dominate the server side, and let the consumer brands duke it out over platforms that are often just acting as web clients?? Especially when they have very little leverage in that consumer area anyhow?!
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craigsaboe wrote: My iPhone and iPad, in Safari or in a native app, have NO IDEA what stack is
pushing them content. The consumer has NO idea.
Which doesn't bode well for Apple' strategy, either. The way most of us consume content is on an increasingly irrelevant commodity product, that has little to distinguish it from any other competitor's product - at least in any meaningful way.
Which does explain the marketing - "Buy our product, it crashes a little less, is a little more user friendly, is made from slightly better materials and has 20,000 more apps you'll never need - all for twice as much!" is not as effective as "Plastic!"
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Absolutely correct. I've run through multiple Androids and iPhones, as well as an iPad and even a Nook Color. I used a Nokia 920 for a week recently too - and in every case, the sole meaningful differentiation between them (ignoring phone functionality) is native applications - not screens or storage or fingerprinting or really even network speed.
And at this point, like you said, we're reaching commoditization - an iPhone 3G and iPad 1G run a browser just as well as the newest ones, and unless you need the crappy social eating app that just took off, you're going to be reaching for "Plastic!!!" for your value proposition.
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craigsaboe wrote: So why in the world would Microsoft not push to dominate the server side, and
let the consumer brands duke it out...
Because, of course, there is more money to be made on the consumer side.
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