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OriginalGriff22-Aug-13 23:51
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Dexterus23-Aug-13 2:22
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Why does your boss tell you how long a project should take?
He can tell you how long he'd like it to take but I see it as:
1. Customer asks Sales
2. Sales asks PM
3. PM asks senior devs/architect - initial estimates with included risk from the devs' experience.
4. PM answers Sales with %-age risk included, based on how scared the devs looked. Decision on initial team size maybe (how many available, how much can be done in parallel, available sprints).
5. Sales answers customer then bills if customer agrees.

You skip devs' estimate or skip PM adding in risk, you're screwed, been there, done that. Project was on time but 30%+ over budget. Would have been more if the devs on it would have actually told the truth about the extent of their overtime.
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