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I'll see your beaver and raise you a spotted dick[^]
MVVM # - I did it My Way
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011
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(That's an 'M')
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Greener grass (not necessarily a reference to money) and an offer.
So I guess you'd need to figure out what they don't have in their current job and offer them that.
1/2/4/6.
7. Working on something you genuinely care about.
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A parking spot!
Oh.. and in cities were parking spots are not in short supply, a company car too 
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
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Move here... Company car + driver ! no need for parking slot
Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^]
Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]
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#7 A boss who knows lists start at 0.
Seriously, the better the 'other stuff' the less money is needed. If I could work from home, I'd take a job for a lot less than if it meant going to some stupid office; even if the view is great.
Reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol
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Although commute may be a pain for some people, I would like to be locked at home for the whole day...
I need to interact with people without a wire in the middle.
Another thing are distractions... Home is full of those, and is the main reason why companies don't adopt this approach more often.
Cheers!
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Money is obviously the biggie, but the other one - heck, it's one even I'd consider, would be VISA sponsorship to move to Canada.
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1. Money
2. Android Development
3. Far away from Microsoft as I can possible get.
4. Flexi time
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While money is a powerful motivator - I've never been paid the mythical "average" wage for my position and responsibilities at any job - it's far from the most important. An interesting challenge is always attractive, and has usually been my primary reason for changing jobs. One perk that has usually evaded my grasp has been an opportunity to develop something cradle to grave, rather than taking over a project that is already doomed and saving it. That's been my fate so many times I've lost count, and for a couple of decades I had a rep as a "fixer." Hard to escape that...
Having a flexible environment where working from home is an option when there is no pressing need to be in the office would be very attractive, too, as I already seem to be doing all of my actual productive work on my own time anyway. A really big motivator would be a climate that is survivable without extreme measures, in a non-Nanny State. I had half that in CA, and I have half that in AZ, just opposite halves. Access to, and financial support for higher education would also be a plus, especially if the courses weren't required to be work related.
Will Rogers never met me.
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It takes a certain type of person to be able to work at home productively and efficiently. Do they have will power and focus to work on things without distractions? DO they understand if they pop out for an hour for a beer, that's an hour of the company's time that needs to be made up, even though you'd never tell your coworkers? CAn you stay on top of issues, keep in contact, and ensure there's a constant flow of communication so that you are in touch with the latest developments and the others on the team know where you're up to?
Lots of people think they can do it, but I've not seen that many who do it well.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I agree, partially. It's extremely difficult to find people who have the discipline to work from home and remain productive. But the idea that an hour away is an hour owed is false; I'm a professional, and I get paid for what I know and the solutions I provide. If it takes 20 hours, or 80 hours to accomplish what needs doing in a week, it's what I do. Time clocks and hourly accounting are for fry cooks, not technical professionals. Of course, there are a lot of people with fry cook minds and ethics working as technical professionals, so it takes a bit of weeding to find the real thing. 
As for the rest of your list, there's no reason for anyone these days to fail in such things. We are in annoyingly constant contact with far too many people, and new information is rammed down our throats without us having to go looking for it. I can recall one idiot I worked for at Northrop. I was working in an advanced division, doing black projects on the bleeding edge of technology, and he happened by my office one day. I was taking a ten minute break to read an article about some new developments in the industry, and his only comment was, "Haven't you got any work to do?" Asshat... But he was typical of the mindset at that division's management, and a reason for that part of the company being dissolved about 2 months after I decided it had no future and moved on.
I think the logistical barriers to working from home have largely been overcome in the past 5 years or so, but I still don't see as much of a shift in that direction as I expected a decade ago. It just doesn't seem to be catching on as well as I thought it would. Maybe we'll have to completely run out of petrol before businesses realize that even though 80% of their workforce can no longer afford to come to the office, their productivity hasn't dropped a bit, and morale has improved!
Will Rogers never met me.
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For me the first 2 nail it but on the other way around.
1. A challenge
2. Money
Of course I never changed for less money, but I always changed primarily based on the challenge.
I've always been working on products, and when they reach the plateau, it's time for me to leave and find a new baby again.
Cheers!
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Well how convenient a question is that, I am looking for a change and am having a second interview today at lunchtime 
1. For me, money has been completely irrelevant in currently looking to move on, if somewhere I feel is the right place offers me round or about what I'm currently earning I'll be happy
2 and 3. Most definitely biggies. Although my current employer are actually good as an employer in general terms, (flexible, reasonable benefits etc.), they've been 're-organising' the entirety of the group IT and given that's over 1500 people and there is union involvement this has been a work in progress now for over 12 months. During that time; no training budget, (not even for conferences such as SQL BITS), no kit budget, (one of the guys I work with is using a laptop that takes close to half an hour to start up and log on to the network), no pro-active development, so we have not been to address significant underlying architectural and technical issues with the main system(s) we work on. This has left us spending a year making no significant improvements technically (or from a personal knowledge perspective), with no work coming in other than the equivalent of 'can you change the layout of that form?'.
4. As I said, my current employer are actually very good in this respect so although this would be part of my decision to commit to a move, it wouldn't make me want to
5. Meh, that's a double edged sword if ever there was one in this industry!
6. Couldn't care less
I would say the biggest part of my current thinking is the stagnation of my current work when technology moves on so quickly. I'm playing with MVC 4 in a sandbox area at the moment, (which seems as much of a paradigm shift as asp to asp.net, maybe a bigger one IMHO). I want to be able to learn, assess and make use of newer technologies and although there are a lot of samples out there, the best way to learn after you get a basic grounding is, I think, by using them in anger. I wouldn't say I want to be an MVC developer over web forms, (or windows forms, or sql...), but I do want to be able to consider it as an option when making technical or development decisions and there is no opportunity to do that where I am, there is always work to do, but most of it is technical gaffer tape rather than properly addressing issues and there just hasn't been any will from the business to do anything than continue in that vein.
Rhys
"If you ever start taking things too seriously, just remember that we are talking monkeys on an organic spaceship flying through the Universe"
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Chris Maunder wrote: What would it take for you to leave your current job?
Reason #1 : Being fed up with actual one otherwise I stay. Whatever challenge, environment, etc., you offer...
Reason #2 : a chance to learn something || have a mentor
Seulement, dans certains cas, n'est-ce pas, on n'entend guère que ce qu'on désire entendre et ce qui vous arrange le mieux... [^]
Joe never complained of anything but ever did his duty in his way of life, with a strong hand, a quiet tongue, and a gentle heart [^]
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Time off.
As you know with my current gig I have plenty of it. So it would have to at least match it. (and no loss of remuneration either!)
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Yeah, but all the fast cars and friendly women tire you out, right?
You and that dream job of yours... 
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I am kind of looking for something else because I am a bit pissed off with some stuff here, but there are lots of good things about here.
My last job I was seriously pissed off with for a couple of years but it was 5 minutes from my house so it took a lot to give that up, especially as I had a new child at home.
At the moment the things that I am looking for (which I not sure all exist( are;
Money - I spend every penny I earn and have almost no disposable income, this is fairly miserable, I could not afford to make myself worse off by changing jobs, I would like to be better off. Worse off is not just salary, but travel costs and so on.
Working environment - I currently work in a largeish open plan office with a tiny desk crammed against others. This is very crap.
Flexibility - I have a young child, my wife has some health problems, I need to be flexible in my hours and with the ability to work from home. I could not give that up right now.
Attitude of company - I currently work for an old, fair sized company that is very comfortable and very slow moving. I want to work for a small company that thinks big.
Range / scale of job - I hate repetition, I get bored easily, I hate having access to part of something rather than the overall whole, I hate being remote from the business. I want to get fully immersed in a company and all the crap that comes with it.
Do I get the job?
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
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I'm debt-free so I can move for reasons other than financial. Don't get me wrong, I want a good salary but I'm flexible. That means I can look at other factors about the workplace. Flexitime is nice but not essential. Dress code should be informal but not OTT. I've no problem with what people wear but sometimes what they wear is a reflection of their attitude to others and to an extent, their attitude to their job.
Office furniture should be comfortable to use and the general environment should be conducive. I know: there are people who dress like tramps, stink like a skunk and who are happy coding in the slops in a dumpster but not everyone does.
Management: you could work for the best paying company in the world but what's the point if the management uses fear and intimidation to bully its staff. You say such firms don't exist, can't exist? We have one employer where it's a serious problem; it's called the NHS. If it works right at the top, it works right at the bottom.
Respect: You can't put a price on that. And you can't buy it either. Many, many years ago, a bank in the UK made some staff redundant. One employee was in hospital when the news broke so HR actually sent someone to the ward to give him his redundancy letter.
The workplace is more about money. Money's important but to reverse that famous statement made by some fashion house owner (can't remember her name); I'd rather be happy on a bicycle than be miserable in a Rolls-Royce.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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An interesting challenge to break away from current tedium, or a bigger challenge than their last
A chance to own something, to get in at the start and build it under your direction
Money
Office environment, perks, co-workers, location, flexibility in hours
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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I am amazed at all the hypocritical answers here about challenge, ability to drive your own project, and such : Put the right amount of money on the table, and you will get anyone.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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And I'm sad that you feel it's hypocritical for people to say they'd move for a chance to have an interesting, rather than lucrative position.
My degree is in theoretical physics and I was under no illusions at the time that I would never make money, but that didn't matter one bit to me as long as I was working on stuff that was fascinating. Talk to artists, scientists, those in NPOs and those in healthcare. And then look at what they pay basic workers in far off mining communities and you see that money isn't actually everything.
(But yes: you pay 10 million bucks a year and you will get a far higher sign-up rate than 50K a year)
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: but that didn't matter one bit to me as long as I was working on stuff that was fascinating
This is good as long as you are single, with a family to feed, you tend to forget about your dreams and look to get money on your account at the end of the month. Extremely few people are well paid and enjoy their work. Actually, extremely few people enjoy their work. You talked about healthcare or NPOs : Give them more money to do a less interesting job, 99.9% will do the move, at least in France.
Chris Maunder wrote: it's hypocritical for people to say they'd move for a chance to have an interesting, rather than lucrative position
I have never met anyone do that. That are things people love to say, but when the opportunity is there, how many chose "conmfort" instead of "challenge" ? That's precisely being hypocritical.
I do think it is sad that the world is turning so, but it is. I know people making in a month what I make in a year, I have no doubt about whose kids (between theirs and mine) will have a better chance in life.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Do not feed the troll ! - Common proverb
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Chris Maunder wrote: very large job fraught with peril and the promise of many long days and bleary
eyes
I'm a parent of two small children, I don't need to get it even worse.
1. Enough money is important, more than that is a perk. Find out where that limit is.
2. Knowing that this challenge is within my abilities.
3. Always a perk, but no dealbreaker for me.
4. Very important. Is the relation to the boss included here, that's just as important. I'm an introvert personality, working in a office cube would also be a dealbreaker.
5. Did I say that I'm introvert?
6. Always a perk.
7. Job safety is a biggie for me. But it wasn't when I was younger. And it might not be when my children have moved out.
Be excellent to each other. And... PARTY ON, DUDES!
Abraham Lincoln
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Oh yeah.
I also want to work somewhere were the senior managers don't have a door only they are allowed to use to get into the building.
Seriously, what the f*** is the point of that? We all end up climbing the same bloody staircase to the offices once we're in.
Massages their ego a little bit and reminds the rest of us we're not as good as them.
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
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