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Great idea, but do you think he is interested in running a drug rehab clinic? 
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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You are talking about Oz here - he doesn't need euphemisms.
We could get him F***ingC**t.au - the .COM version is already gone (DO NOT GO THERE)
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Great reply, made me laugh.
Oh and I couldn't help it. I went there.
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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When I entered the search word, I was sure that it would be Michael or at the very least some other cpian.
I could rattle off a few names and you would have been on the list as well Nagy.
A bit disappointing really...
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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Seems like they got desperate for a name and clumsily worked it into their tag line.
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I don't know, but it may work better in Spanish.
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No, it doesn't even make sense in spanish
If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right - Henry Ford
Emmanuel Medina Lopez
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I don't know about you, but I prefer reading technical info over watching a video.
If I want to install a Minecraft Server (a task I performed on the weekend for The Boy(TM)) it's about five simple steps - mainly command line based.
So, give me a web page of instructions & I can not only go at my own pace, but I can copy/paste the commands where necessary.
when searching, though, I seem to come across more and more videos rather than texts (it occurs to me that this was on The Boy(TM)'s computer, so much searching will have been done on you tube previously)
What do you prefer? When is a video a good idea vs text?
(And I know CP have recently introduced videos, but don't let that slant your POV - I just noticed on there a $1.99 video explaining just a single function (IF or WHILE or something - it seems to be down right now) - so is money the motivating factor- do people pay to watch videos with information they wouldn't pay for in written form?)
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Videos don't "stick" for me. To me they are like seminars where you just fast forward all the way through trying to find the relevant parts. Written text I can skim very quickly (Plus there are no accents )
Books are helpful, but I find a good online site where, like you, I can cut and paste the code and change it to suit my needs.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Videos are problematic for me for a few reasons:
- Guilt. At work, the servers that host our site use the same bandwidth that employees use to browse the internet. So, when I watch a video, that takes bandwidth away from our site visitors.
- Bandwidth. My work network is stupidly slow.
- Pace. Videos generally make it hard for me to go at my own pace.
- Skipping. I can't easily skip past sections in video (not precisely, anyway).
- Resuming. It's hard to quickly find where I left off in a video.
- Search. It's hard to search a video like you could with the text of an article in a browser.
- Overview. It's hard to get a quick overview of the video.
- Intrusive. Videos are intrusive (they either make unwelcome noise for my coworkers, or require I wear headphones).
That being said, videos can be a great resource, and most of the above problems have been solved by some people. For example, Lynda.com (and maybe CodeProject... haven't really looked at their video offering much) has in-video named bookmarks, text transcripts, a table of contents that links into the video, text overviews, and so on. Also, when I was learning Umbraco, I found Umbraco TV's video resources to be fantastic. I had trouble staying awake through the videos (speakers were monotone), but them navigating fluidly through the Umbraco GUI as they explained was much faster than they could have explained things in an article.
Also, I do wish a pay method would work for all of Code Project (articles included). Good that they are making it work with videos.
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Quote: Overview. It's hard to get a quick overview of the video.
Rightly said, you can even go over a piece of text with speed, but in case of watching video you can't
do so!
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Monster Maker wrote: you can even go over a piece of text with speed, but in case of watching video you can't
do so!
Well, within reason, you can. It's pretty usual for me to watch TV shows at 1.5x speed.
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Quote: It's pretty usual for me to watch TV shows at 1.5x speed.
Not usual for everyone! But reading familiar text fast,or which you have read before is what everyone can do.
Both medias have there pros and cons!!
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I've seen some FANTASTIC educational videos in my time - and have seen kids learning from them much more effectively than from a book - so your post made me wonder if us oldsters just learn that differently?!
Most of the stuff I am looking up and learning is building on a wealth of experience - so skim reading and looking for just the info I am interested in makes sense.
I wonder if the less experienced folk need more of a 'whole thing;' approach - making video more appropriate.
this guy[^] does great science videos that I have shown to kids and actually seen Ah-ha moments IRL
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_Maxxx_ wrote: I've seen some FANTASTIC educational videos in my time - and have seen kids
learning from them much more effectively than from a book
I think it depends on the subject.
I've seen good videos also (not only for children) - on Photohop, how to paint the house etc.
But could you imagine implementing https from scrach having video as the only spec? 
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Recently I had more of a hardware problem.[^] It's obvious that a video is a great help when you have to take something apart and better put it back together the way it was.
Sent from my BatComputer via HAL 9000 and M5
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CDP1802 wrote: It's obvious that a video is a great help
Not to me. I'd still prefer something written, with pictures maybe, but hard copy nonetheless
A video can be helpful as an addition to that, no doubt - especially for something requiring manual dexterity like, oh, I don't know, changing the rotor on a toy helicopter
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CDP1802 wrote: a video is a great help when you have to take something apart and better put it back together the way it was.
Dunno. If there's movement involved, then I suppose a video can show that better (e.g. one of our UC instructors gave us a book with loads of photos, which was a bit of a joke), but I usually prefer a walkthrough with photos/pictures, where all I have to do to advance or back up a step or two is move my eyes.
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I think it depends on what you're trying to gain information on.
If it's some procedure I need to follow to make something, for example, cooking, I prefer written material with diagrams or photos as appropriate.
If it's general information on how things work (science, engineering) or how things happened (history) I prefer videos although written material isn't bad.
If it's some instruction I need to follow to perform something, like Yoga or a dance, I think videos work better.
Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike... me...
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I mainly use books and CP articles, sometimes even MSDN is not so bad..
We don't have sound cards here, so video is no choice. Flash is not even installed.
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It really depends on what the subject is: if it's anything that needs typing in, then written is much, much better - if only because you can see more easily exactly what to type and where. Video tends to be less clear on this.
But video excels (if done properly) when if comes to complex disassembly / assembly: did you ever try to rebuild a gearbox from a Haynes Book Of Lies? A video of the disassembly and reassembly process would be a lot, lot easier to follow (if only because the author can't accidentally forget to mention the bolt hidden under the flange - they would have to explicitly cut that step from the video, which would be more obvious).
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OriginalGriff wrote: Haynes Book Of Lies?
Yes - very similar to the Ikea sheet of inaccuracy!
Speaking of which, I once stared to develop a web-based (java applet) applicatoin that was to display ikea-like constructions as a series of user-rotatable/zoomable etc. animated models.
So each step would have a short animation of the step being performed, and the viewer would be able to zoom pan rotated the view, so they could see what the hell was going on.
I didn't get too far with it, because my Java skillz weren't up to it.
I still think it would be a great thing to have, though (I bet there's something out there!)as long as the animations were relatively easy for companies to set up for their products.
Much more effective than either text n piccies or video
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75% of time, I prefer a good written tutorial, _with pictures_. So I can use it asynchronously, I can print it and get away with it and look at it offline.
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I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
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I prefer videos for learning. (Like Pluralsight). I also prefer videos for light interactive learning.
Whenever I want to accomplish something, I prefer text. Like the walkthrough type of thing you mentioned.
So, to answer your question.... yes
If it moves, compile it
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Interesting discussion below. It does seem to me that it's insane to assume that a community like this would divide on language barriers. The people not speaking English also want to learn to code, why should they be locked out of doing it because their English is not great ?
On the other hand, I am at a loss to understand why so many companies think it's OK to hire people who can't speak English to work in call centres. That's like hiring me for a lingerie model. It's not discrimination to point out I just don't have what it takes to do the job. My Jet* debacle came down to me needing to speak to an English speaker for them to see their website had a bug, the non English speaking layer just assumed it was my fault. The worst is ISP tech support, just because I am not an entry level tech support client, no matter what language you speak.
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Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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