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The standard of living is still very good. The malls are up there with the best of them and the restaurants still deliver great service and food. A lot depends on where you live. Joburg was my city and it still has that rough edge to it which is more African-esque than say those snobbish cnuts that reside in that over-hyped city of Cape Town. The major development hub is in Joburg. That's where most of the banks have their HQs and the M1 corridor from Joburg through Midrand to Pretoria has a lot of very good companies. I used to work for Nedbank in their IT centre in Sandton. Wifey and me used to live in Parkmore just down the drag from it and we loved it. You're partly right about the country going down the tubes but unlike other countries in the African continent SA is way above all of them and so will survive.

Getting permanent residence isn't going to be easy and the rules are like most countries anywhere, a company has to prove it can't use local labour to fill a job. Then again, IT is still a good bet as the universities aren't producing the quality required by the financial sector. You'd have to ask the local government to see what the rules are now. Getting a work permit will be easier than getting citizenship. You don't want to commute because (a) you can't as there's no established public transport and (b) getting in/out and around Joburg is a pain in the arse.

Under no circumstances work in the city centre. I used to work in Commissioner Street when it was safe to do so and it was clean. My wife worked at Park Lane clinic and we lived on the edge of Hillbrow. F*** it! Hillbrow is a total slum now and anyone who works near it is stupid or double stupid. Hillbrow and Braamfontein are the two reasons all the major financial sector companies moved to the northern suburbs and midrand.

Getting into wildlife isn't easy either. A mate of mine worked for Gencor and used to run the stock in their five game farms. Getting into the KNP or private lodges is virtually closed to all but those who are brilliant trackers or are well qualified in other areas related to conservation or the hospitality business. Smaller farms do have openings but the typical game farm grunt gets paid next to nothing. Then again, if I could work at Leopard Hills, Mala Mala, Timbavati, Londolozi and the other private farms I'd work for nothing!

SA is a stunningly beautiful country. I could wax lyrical about all the places I went to. I only lived in Joburg's environs. For me those tossers in Cape Town are stuck-up nose-in-the-air arseholes who think the world owes them a living. For me, the real SA is outside the cities and well away from the tourist-tat areas. You don't find work in them which is a bummer. Learning a second language is recommended. You have about 11 official ones to choose from. Afrikaans is more common than you think and if we were to move back to SA, I'd put Zulu on my list of want-to-dos.

Durban has some IT hubs and Cape Town takes second place to Joburg for the major IT centres. I suspect though that there's a lot of competition for the places that are on offer. Remember too, that SA has high inflation and you have to have private medical aid. Any state pension is probably worth less than a bowl of peanuts to you must provide your own pension and investment portfolio. And don't forget the rugby either.

Joburg is lovely city. For sure it doesn't have the postcard-picture of say Cape Town but you make and lose friends in Joburg easier than you do in Cape Town. The Star and Sunday Times used to run every good job going and so did the Pretoria News but competition is fierce. Bloem, Witbank, Potch and other towns are less likely to have much on offer. You could also look to Namibia as well. Swakopmund was quite a well-to-do city for mining related software and its capital Windhoek also had a good reputation. Unfortunately, I remember the country when it was called SWA. When the government f***ed me in the 70s/80s I did some of my military service in the Caprivi Strip. But Jobur has the edge in IT and that's where the major money is to be found.

Where are you currently based. Don't say Cape Town. If you do I'll personally come back and kick some sense into you. Big Grin | :-D
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