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Quote: Then you haven't been to a high school recently. One of the major issues in schools is supporting student PCs, as they will customise tehm to the point of being all but unusable given half a chance - so the computers have to be locked down to stop them customising
That was just an example of person who knows nothing about pc. What he would like and prefer.
Quote: which he accesses via a computer UI !!
It is like you are downloading other internet browsers from your internet explorer!
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There's two issues here I think.
Customization can be a pain to support so the basics of the OS are reasonably locked down.
Imagine trying to use someone's computer if they whistled instead of clicking the mouse, and burped for a double click, for example. It's bad enough with a left handed mouse set up, but if the whole ui is customize it would be a real pain. Also you'd want all devices to use the same paradigms for that user.
The other issue is in the 'learning' ui - ie the ui changing over time to adapt to the users requirements.
Ms tried that some time ago with menu options being hidden or moved depending on the frequency of use. Trouble is, people get used to selecting the third item downon the menu - so got it wrong when the menu option moved, or they used someone else's computer.
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I hate using someone elses computer and will throttle anyone who changes mine. If MS persisted in the dynamic menu stuff I'd probably be using nix. I loathe the ribbon concept of changing menu content based on location. So both concepts would get a negative reaction from me!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I don't want computer to work on my whistle.
But what i want is, it should keep a record of my liking,
i.e finding patterns what all i do on my pc(like google makes patterns what i search),
what are the places i find difficulties and where not,
and in response adjusting the UI according to it to make my work more efficient.
Does that sound illogical?
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Monster Maker wrote: i.e finding patterns what all i do on my pc(like google makes patterns what i search),
So My next application should collect information like if user uses keyboard collect everything the user type's. So that I can sell this information to the highest bidder?
I am the new Google overlord. 
MMMMUUUUUAAAAHHHHHAAAAA!
Frazzle the name say's it all
Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code will be a violent psychopath who knows where you live.
John F. Woods
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Quote: So My next application should collect information like if user uses keyboard collect everything the user type's. So that I can sell this information to the highest bidder?
I already thought about it buddy, and made such application.
It violates the privacy policy IT-Act 2000 A under my country's law section.
And most importantly why the people will use your application ,giving all information about them knowing
that you are selling it to the advertizers.
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Not illogical but it has been tried and it led to difficulties, because if your ui is different to mine, and indeed different to everyone's, then support and training become an issue (as does learning the system for the user)
Unless there is a global standard on how to store the set up, it makes moving between computers a problem too.
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Ok Maxx,
we can't fight that why the companies are not trying something, what i personally think. Its totally their call.
Lastly, just answer 1 question.
what will you prefer,
-an OS which makes you learn something, by associating it with what you have already learnt in life
- or the MAC OS which expects that you should learn about it first and then make him do something
rest i am a biggest fool on earth, thanks for commenting on my viewpoint.
stay excellent!
World is short of ideas!
modified 30-Mar-13 9:38am.
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Current ui paradigms in OS use things we 'have already learned in life' - such as pressing buttons, stacking things on top of one another, reading lists, associating pictures wi actions etc. etc. etc.
So, would I prefer An os GUI that uses my personal habits to tailor its icons, menus, etc, to make it 'easier' for me to use? Not particularly. With consistency comes familiarity, and so ease of use.
It might seem like a good idea but people don't generally have a problem learning the basics of an OS ui, because there is cross platform consistency, so moving from Mac to windows to Linux is generally quite easy because of the similarities in the presentation.
Use a learning ui paradigm and the user would struggle more in moving from OS to OS Neil the new one had learned from them. And the majority of computer users are using the computer as a tool to perform some function, and are not software devs or geeks who want something more.
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Monster Maker wrote: we can't fight that why the companies are not trying something, what i personally think. Its totally their call.
The point is that people HAVE tried this. It doesn't work well. Not even close.
And that is why companies don't pursue it.
Monster Maker wrote: -an OS which makes you learn something, by associating it with what you have already learnt in life
That statement completely ignores something - complexity.
It seems to suggest that the totality of human experience can be codified. Even if possible (which I doubt due to economics) current technology far, far from being able to do it.
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Your posts on the Lounge, expanding in number exponentially ... or should I say "virally" ? ... truly make me wish that down-voting on the Lounge was restored.
Bill
“Beginning, middle, and end of birth, growth, and perfection we behold is from contraries, by contraries, and to contraries; and whatever contrariety is, there is action, reaction, there is motion, diversity, multitude, order.”
Giordano Bruno, cosmologist, philosopher, burned at the stake for heresy on February 17, 1600. When condemned, he said to his Inquisitors: “Perhaps you pronounce this verdict against me with greater fear than I receive it.”
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80% people down-vote the thing which they don't understand.
and i can't help it..!!
Besties..
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84% of statistics on the internet are made up.
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_Maxxx_ wrote: 84% of statistics on the internet are made up.
I'm 93% sure you're full of sh*t.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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And the OP is 93% full of sh!t.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: And the OP is 93% full of sh!t.
What is the other 7% made up of?
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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I can't speak for anyone else, but I estimate the 7% of me that is not full of sh*t, is vocabulary.
yours, Bill
“Beginning, middle, and end of birth, growth, and perfection we behold is from contraries, by contraries, and to contraries; and whatever contrariety is, there is action, reaction, there is motion, diversity, multitude, order.”
Giordano Bruno, cosmologist, philosopher, burned at the stake for heresy on February 17, 1600. When condemned, he said to his Inquisitors: “Perhaps you pronounce this verdict against me with greater fear than I receive it.”
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i know,i am talking about the 16%..
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Monster Maker wrote: 80% people down-vote the thing which they don't understand.
I doubt that.
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You do know that you haven't properly understood what NUI's actually are, don't you? You might want to learn a bit about them before you spam the lounge with this drivel.
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Quote: You do know that you haven't properly understood what NUI's actually are
Let me tell you, you haven't understood my question.
I have no debate against NUI, i have a debate against UI bieng generic and same to everybody.
Next time read that message twice before calling it a spam. Because the thing which u don't understand is not always a spam.
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Monster Maker wrote: i have a debate against UI bieng generic and same to everybody.
I am really glad someone has finally brought this up! When the term natural user interface was coined I was downright perplexed by the fact that it wasn't wholley user-defined (because 'natural' is such a subjective term).
This summer, I will begin developing an app that will *try* to realize that goal, but I am inexperienced, so don't get your hopes up too far. Also, LEAP motion won't let me into their developer sdk because I'm so inexperienced. Hopefully, when they start to sell devices in May, they will open up the developer community a bit more.
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