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wizardzz wrote: Does anyone else have something on their desk that would drive them mad if they had to go without for days (not counting computer peripherals/IO)?
Beer?
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My coffee mug, those paper cups just don't cut it.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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I have managed to destroy a work keyboard when I spilled something on it. Took a little while to get a replacement. Have spilled many time on papers on my desk, which can be a bit of a pain. I keep way too many papers on my desk. The worst spill is when i did it to my laptop. Which I have unfortunately done a couple of times. Fortunately dried out the first time, but it took a long while. On my current laptop managed to spill oil on it, and I can still see the effects of the oil on the display, but at least it works.
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I spilled a Smirnoff Spin on my one laptop and that was it. 
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My ex-girlfriend would have called that alcohol abuse. Never waste it.
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I was having a physical scrap with my housemate. I really couldn't help it.
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Must have been your girlfriend. They can get really testy, and take it out in bad ways.
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wizardzz wrote: I love the thing and let it run every day just for the sound.
I do the same thing at night, I've become so used to using a fan to cool my room during the summer that I have to run a fan when I go to bed or I can't fall asleep. I might go temporarily crazy if that happened to my bedroom fan...
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Agreed. I'm the same way. When we moved into our place, my woman made the landlord install a bedroom fan, it was the one demand we had. I think it has spilled over into needing the fan work though.
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wizardzz wrote: Does anyone else have something on their desk that would drive them mad if they had to go without for days (not counting computer peripherals/IO)?
You mean besides the secretary?
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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A red stapler? On top of the TPS reports.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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You will usually find a can of green Monster energy drink on my desk . On a related note, I once spilled half a can of green Monster stuff onto my Enermax Caesar keyboard[^]. I took it apart and did my very best to clean it, but it never really recovered .
Soren Madsen
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I use exactly one pen each year. It just happened that I ran out of ink exactly one year after working at my company, so I decided to make my own little traition. At the end of the year I retire the pen and hang it on my bulletin board where it sits next to all the previous years pens. Sort of like a tick mark counting off how many years I've worked here. Anyway...if I can't find my pen, I go a little nuts....now I feel like I've shared too much...
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I am in the process of trying to introduce Version/Revision Control to a team of developers who have never used it. I will be giving a presentation that I hope will be a persuasive explanation of the importance of Version Control -- the benefits of using it and the liabilities of avoiding it. I would like to kick it off with an amusing but instructive list modelled after the "redneck" line of jokes. Can anyone help me add to this list?
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"You know you're a Version Control Avoider if..."
• You have a bunch of files or folders with names like Engine_05212012_works_old[2].cpp
• You've had to explain to your boss how you accidentally overwrote production code.
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I don't consider myself terribly witty, but I think a little humor could be helpful in this situation. Any ideas for how to extend this list?
[Bonus points if you can suggest a better moniker than "Version Control Avoider"]
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Not a joke, but at my last company they did have production go down, and the backup was overwritten with the broken production, so the entire 500,000 lines of SQL stored procedures were lost. Or, they would have been if a coworker hadn't made a personal backup.
Instead of fixing the situation (version control, off site backups, hardware that isn't ancient, employees that aren't tards, etc.), they put her in charge of backups.
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AspDotNetDev wrote: Instead of fixing the situation (version control, off site backups, hardware that isn't ancient, employees that aren't tards, etc.), they put her in charge of backups
No good deed goes un-punshished.
She will never make that mistake again. She will continue to have backups of her work, but will take an appropriate amount of time to re-invent her things.
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IMO, that qualifies for a (horrible, dark-humored) joke.
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I think I worked for that same boss at one point. 
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You worked at a company where the branching model made you want to throw yourself out of a window.
Oh, you're trying to sell them on version control....
Seriously, I have a batch file that 7-zips just the important files in a project and I'd rather use than than badly configured version control.
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You know you are a Version Control Avoider when, ....
You try to figure out why a lot of your source filenames start with "Z_...", or "ZZZZ_..." and so on and so on.
Also
You have folders named, "Bug Fix - Defect#84 - Sometimes Crashes".
Chris Meech
I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar]
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]
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Chris Meech wrote: You have folders named, "Bug Fix - Defect#84 - Sometimes Crashes".
I actually have such folders. They contain project data that we need to reproduce a given problem. Ok, the description is usually more distinctive than "Sometimes Crashes". 
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Not quite a direct answer, but assuming from your question that you expect resistance and noting the phrase 'persuasive explanation' I would advocate a different approach from that which is suggested by your post, apologies if I am preaching to the converted.
A great way (there is more than one and none are de facto best, it's situational) is that advocated by Andy Bounds, you'll have to hunt for hard content since he makes his money by selling books and appearances, not free content on teh intarweb.
Essentially you don't convince, at least not from your perspective, you sell from their perspective. Or, you put it a different way, the reasons you want to use VC are irrelevant to your audience. What version control can do for them from their persepective is. So, why don't they use it today? Do you know all the reasons; why they prefer what they are doing? Etc. Tip: It's not because they don't understand, that's your perspective. If you don't know then mneeting 1 is you asking questions and listening, about 90% listening and 10% talking for you, only maybe less talking from you. The most common things you say should be 'Tell me more' and 'Do I understand this correctly, I think you said...'. Meeting 2 is VC from their perspective using what you learned to put it in their perspective. Powerpoint may be totally unnecessary.
How does VC give them something they want? (AFTER's) What they want is defined by what they tell you in that first meeting or smaller discussions ahead of that meeting.
Every point you want to make has to be a direct ansewer to what they've told you. If it isn't then don't say it, they aren't interested, no matter how important it is to you, it will dilute your direct answers to their actual questions and interests.
/end preach
Mike
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