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I expect that repressive societies have to stop being repressive, simply because otherwise they'd have to round up the entire new generation. They could do that, but it wouldn't take long before they'd run out of society.
It's the more serious version of the imminent death of google-based background checks (you would be unable to hire anyone if you check their backgrounds, unless you like picking the shiniest of several turds).
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harold aptroot wrote: I expect that repressive societies have to stop being repressive
Oh the optimism of the young.
"If you are young, and not liberal, then you don't have a heart. If you are old, and not conservative, then you don't have a brain." - Winston Churchill
People change as they get older and conform to societal norms.
harold aptroot wrote: google-based background checks
Are alive and well and a reason to offer you less salary because you are not the perfect shiny turd you think you are
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JimmyRopes wrote: People change as they get older and conform to societal norms.
But their history sticks around. That's the problem. Anything you ever did or said or wrote, they will find it and they will kill you for it. Growing up and getting more conservative doesn't help - you will forever appear to be the person you once were.
JimmyRopes wrote: harold aptroot wrote: google-based background checks
Are alive and well and a reason to offer you less salary because you are not the perfect shiny turd you think you are profit
FTFY - profit is the only anyone cares about. But the same thing as above applies. Not long from now, everyone will be completely unemployable due to their internet history. Do you want to hire the neo nazi, the completely ignorant, or the guy with a dozen DUI's? None of those? Too bad, they're all like that.
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harold aptroot wrote: But their history sticks around. That's the problem. Anything you ever did or
said or wrote, they will find it and they will kill you for it. Growing up and
getting more conservative doesn't help - you will forever appear to be the
person you once were.
The fact that online profiles exist now doesn't mean that no one ever had a problem with their youthful indiscretions.
harold aptroot wrote: FTFY - profit is the only anyone cares about
That of course isn't true. There are many things taht drive people and organizations.
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jschell wrote: The fact that online profiles exist now doesn't mean that no one ever had a problem with their youthful indiscretions.
I never claimed that. It's getting infinitely worse though.
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jschell wrote: That of course isn't true. There are many things taht drive people and organizations.
Yes, there are also other forms of personal gain, including more abstract forms.
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harold aptroot wrote: I expect that repressive societies have to stop being repressive, simply because
otherwise they'd have to round up the entire new generation.
Despite what might might seem like the radicalism of youth in fact many of them are quite alright with the status quo. There is a larger (and louder) minority who wish to produce change but they do not represent the entire generation.
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What is a "larger minority"?
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harold aptroot wrote:
What is a "larger minority"?
Incomplete thought.
There are malcontents across all age groups with new people coming and going over time.
Younger people, far as I can tell, have more people discontented than other groups. The percentage of younge people, within the age group, is larger than other groups but the percentage still represents a minority.
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That makes more sense.
But it's not my experience, which is that everyone complains, but no one cares enough to actually do something.
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JimmyRopes wrote: it is not in your best interest to disclose your opinion on a medium where it
can hurt you in the future, especially if you live in a repressive society.
It isn't in your best interest to express any opinion via any means at all in such a society. And probably isn't even a good idea after a significant regime change at least for years after since one can not be sure that it won't shift back or that the new leaders did not represent their true intentions initially.
But of course if everyone refrains from doing that then there probably won't be a change anyways.
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It's one thing when its something I considered to be public, but as this was work I never connected in my mind that it would be tracked.
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Andy Brummer wrote: It's one thing when its something I considered to be public, but as this was work I never connected in my mind that it would be tracked.
You are being tracked whenever you go on the internet. 
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I find that if you click on an ad once, or have already been to that vendor's site, you will see their ads a lot. For example, I'm a customer of iWeb and have probably clicked on one of their ads at some point. Now every site I go to has an iWeb ad, which is stupid because they are paying per impression and I'm already a customer.
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All your life are ours.
Y'know, you could try switching things off or blocking them.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I will if it becomes a bother. This was the first time that I hit anything unexpected, or made me even think about wanting to turn it off. I probably won't bother unless I went further to disguise my browsing. Even with cookies turned off, a surprising percentage of us still have a unique browser signature.
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Chris,
I hope you can take this post in good humour but there's something about what you recently wrote that troubles me. In the context of your reply (it hung directly off a previous "boat race protestor" thread) you wrote "bugger off home" and I wonder if was targeted at me personally? I'm not sure if it was a generic statement but I'd like to read your thoughts about it.
The reason I ask, is that there seems to be some (shall we call it) "tainted blood" between us and I'd like to put it away. Perhaps I'm being a bit over sensitive so please accept my apologies if I've got it wrong but it seems to fit a pattern.
If I have pee'ed you off to the extent that it's a problem then I apologise for that. Here and now. I'd do it personally, face-to-face but I can't so I have to use the open community where perhaps private communication would be better and less intrusive.
I know there many of us who strut around CP on occasions like bears with sore heads but I'd like to put as many bears to bed with an aspirin if I can. So, please accept this and read it in good faith as I'm genuine in what I write.
All the best, mate.  
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68).
"I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
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Erm, it was aimed at Trenton Oldfield.
He's an Aussie who now lives in the UK and dedicates his life to protesting about it.
Essentially I was attempting a poor parody of the challenge always thrown at, for example, Muslims who live over here but want to change it.
I have no problem with you at all, although I have often disagreed with what you think about certain aspects of life, or incidents in, the UK.
But I have absolutely no problem with you having or expressing those views.
So please, continue to write whatever you think or feel, and if I disagree with some of it I will say so.
Now I'm off to The Brunswick[^], I'll buy you a pint. Don't worry if you can't get there, I'll drink it as well.
xxx
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
Shed Petition[ ^]
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Chris,
Bugger off home......
I have no beer......
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If you have no beer then I'm not stopping, but I suggest you bugger off and get some, and don't let this happen again.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
Shed Petition[ ^]
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It's one heck of a swim to the nearest offie!
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Well I don't think that is on!
No street view of the rig? Come on Google, pull yer finger out!
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Many, many, many years ago I was on holiday on a small boat cruising around the coast of Turkey, each night moored in a small harbour town
We drank a phenomenal amount.
One night after we all mooned the boatload of Italians moared next to us we were thrown out of the harbour and had to anchor out in the sea.
That night we were dangerously close to running out of alcohol so the cabin boy set off in a row boat to get some more.
We very soon lost sight of him in the dark, and some time later we could no longer hear his singing.
A couple of hours later we picked up his singing again, before eventually getting visual. His little rowboat full of much needed booze.
A great holidays.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
Shed Petition[ ^]
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ChrisElston wrote: Erm, it was aimed at Trenton Oldfield.
He's an Aussie who now lives in the UK and dedicates his life to protesting about it.
Dave,
Faarrrkkkk off. He's obviously a Pom that may have been born in Australia, but then moved back to Pommyland where he belongs.
There is no way in faarrrkkkking hell we would have an Australian named Trenton. It's against the law over here both legally and ethically.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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